I like Harvey Mudd. Where else should I apply?

<p>I love how they are strong in science and engineering but have well-rounded students.
I want to study biology or engineering, but don't want to completely give up the liberal arts (especially language classes. I also want to study abroad, which I know some technical institutes discourage).
I like the smart students, the small classes, the skewed male/female ratio.</p>

<p>Southern California sounds nice, but it isn't what draws me.
Instead, it's the school's philosophy.</p>

<p>So, are there any other schools (anywhere in the country) that are primarily for math/science majors but also encourage liberal arts?</p>

<p>How about Columbia? Its two primary schools are the liberal arts Columbia College and the school of engineering & applied science, so there’s that balance. AND it’s in New York City…</p>

<p>I think the SEAS student population is the minority at Columbia, but that’s actually what I like about it. Smaller faculty:student ratio, more personalized academics, etc.</p>

<p>Carnegie Mellon</p>

<p>The ratio isn’t so skewed male/female anymore… more than 50% female for the freshman class this year. Or is that what you meant?</p>

<p>And, HMC seems to want to work with students who want to study aboard. My daughter will be taking French off campus to work towards studying in, well, France…</p>

<p>As for other schools: Rice looks good or maybe Rose-Hulman? Don’t know much about them though…</p>

<p>More than half female? That’s interesting - collegeboard told me 64% men and the HMC commondataset (2009-2010) said that 60% of admitted students were male. But that doesn’t really matter, that is certainly not a key factor, just a curious side note.</p>

<p>I’ve heard the name Rose-Hulman a few times - it looks interesting. Unfortunately, their EA deadline was yesterday. So I’ll probably research it for another couple of weeks and see if I want to apply.
And thanks for the feedback.</p>

<p>Well, for sure the admitted freshman class of 2014 was 51% female… HMC is trying to up the admittance of underrepresented groups, and has done particularly well with women - qualified women - However, the whole student body is still skewed towards men at the moment and who knows what the new admitted class will look like… </p>

<p>Here is a link from HMC about it…</p>

<p>[Incoming</a> class of 2014 the most diverse yet](<a href=“http://www.hmc.edu/specialinterestfeatures/oncampus/class-of-2014-most-diverse-yet.html]Incoming”>http://www.hmc.edu/specialinterestfeatures/oncampus/class-of-2014-most-diverse-yet.html)</p>

<p>Good luck with your search, my daughter loves Mudd – something I haven’t heard from her peers about their colleges. I think it is a great school.</p>

<p>Hey, thanks. That was an interesting article.
And surely, any efforts made by such a school towards a 50:50 ratio would be to my advantage. <em>makes some quick calculations based on 2009-2010 commondataset</em> Yes, last year (when the ratio was still 60:40), 51% of female applicants were admitted compared to only 28% of male applicants.
(This makes me happy. I would really like to go to Harvey Mudd.)</p>

<p>You might look at Swarthmore.</p>

<p>Check out Carleton</p>

<p>Pomona maybe? Harvey Mudd doesn’t strike me as strong in bio. How about UChicago or Reed?</p>

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<p>SEAS?</p>

<p>What does that stand for?</p>

<p>Rose Hulman isn’t any more liberal arts focused than Harvey Mudd and isn’t know for bio, so probably not what the OP is seeking. CMU was a good thought or maybe Case Western. Like Swarthmore but less selective - Trinity U. in TX has engineering and stong bio in a liberal arts environment.</p>

<p>The most obvious one is Reed</p>

<p>You might look into [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.wpi.edu/academics/depts.html]WPI[/url”&gt;http://www.wpi.edu/academics/depts.html]WPI[/url</a>] or [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.rpi.edu/academics/]RPI[/url”&gt;Academics :: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI)]RPI[/url</a>]. I’ve seen several posts from parents of students at both of those institutes on the Class of '13 thread. From what the parents said over time, their students seemed to have many Mudd-friendly personality traits… and they were very happy at those institutes.</p>

<p>Rice may be attractive too, although it will have a different flavor from Mudd.</p>

<p>I don’t know about Rose’s strength in bio, but Rose-Hulman looks lovely. This thread compares the two pretty well. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvey-mudd-college/883813-admission-mudd-vs-rose-hulman.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvey-mudd-college/883813-admission-mudd-vs-rose-hulman.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, look into Case Western Reserve. It’s a small mathier/sciencier university that really claims to focus on undergrads.</p>

<p>Swarthmore? I think RPI is decent, too.</p>

<p>I couldn’t resist giggling at “Rice has a different flavor than Mudd” - well…yes…I’d rather eat Rice! There’s also , perhaps RIT and URochester. I second Case as well.</p>

<p>RIT is nothing like Mudd. I was there for summer research and would highly unrecommend it. It’s a big school, doesn’t have anything like the honor code, and the student body didn’t seem as well rounded (though this might have been a summer thing. At RIT, you’d probably have more free time to be well rounded in terms of extracurriculars if you wanted to be. However, you wouldn’t have access to the excellent liberal arts programs at the other 4Cs). I met some great people there, but it seemed like a depressing place to be.</p>

<p>Case Western sounds like the best fit for you. Both of my friends who considered bioengineering were very seriously considering going there. </p>

<p>CMU’s also a great school from what I’ve heard, and seems to have a very similar culture to Mudd. I know that there are several alums who are very happy in grad school there.</p>

<p>I don’t know enough about RPI and WPI to give a sound judgment but I’ll throw in my 2 cents anyway. I was accepted to RPI back in the day and it seems like a good school, but my impression was that the atmosphere wasn’t quite as nice/fun. Troy isn’t the greatest town, and though Albany is interesting it’s not quite LA :wink: All I know about WPI is that there’s a current Mudd senior who started working on his transfer application very soon after he got there. He made enough connections that he would have been OK with staying at WPI if he hadn’t been accepted to Mudd, but he’s still happy he made the switch.</p>

<p>The biology department at Mudd may not be as well known as some of the other departments, but I wouldn’t say that it isn’t strong. Partial Bio majors Andrey Shur '11 (Chem/Bio) and Nadia Abuelazam '09 (Math/Bio) were both Astronaut Scholars, which is a pretty big deal (only 20 nationwide). There’s probably better examples, but I’m not very familiar with the bio department. Also, the OP said they were looking at Bio OR Engineering. Engineering is what Mudd is known for, and Prof. Orwin’s lab conducts joint research with the bio department ([HarveyMuddCollege](<a href=“http://www.hmc.edu/academicsclinicresearch/fellowships1/index/engman.html]HarveyMuddCollege[/url]”>http://www.hmc.edu/academicsclinicresearch/fellowships1/index/engman.html)</a>). The website is a bit outdated, but it will give you a basic idea. You’d probably be best off contacting Prof. Orwin herself.</p>

<p>So…there’s my opinion on the matter. Hopefully it was somewhat useful.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info!</p>

<p>I have applied to Case Western. I was glad to see your response that Case was the best fit on the list; that was the conclusion I had come to myself.</p>