"I Must Go To A Top School" Mentality

<p>The point I was trying to make is that not all schools are equal to med schools (which is what the other poster was trying to imply). </p>

<p>Do you mean me? I don't know I was trying to imply all schools are equal; I agree Some schools prepare you better for the MCAT them others. But I also think (thought? at least when my peers and I went to medical school) that MCATs, where the most important thing.</p>

<p>"I was just trying to see if other non-top school applicants got in base on your post, but now I see your explanation and I understand your point."</p>

<p>Sorry, I was just talking about the automatic interviews that UMich offers in June (roughly two months before they offer interviews to anyone else). According to the admissions director, you must fulfill three requirements:</p>

<ol>
<li>MCAT (usually 36-37 or above)</li>
<li>GPA (3.8 or above)</li>
<li>Top undergrad</li>
</ol>

<p>No one knows how big the list of "top undergrads" is for UMich but considering only around 75 out of 4000 out-of-state applicants received automatic interviews last year, I'd guess that it's not very large.</p>

<p>The name of a school is lower than your GPA, MCAT, recs, research, clinical experience, interview, and personal statement in terms of direct consideration by an adcom. However, the school you go to influences many of those factors and thus plays a huge role in your admissions chances.</p>

<p>TooRichForAid:</p>

<p>You are also TooResourcefulForWords!
The link you provided gives high school students who think they may be pre-med the info they need.</p>

<p>I want to weep at the level at which "money as a means to happiness" has been ingrained into our society.</p>

<p>:(</p>

<p>Yes, it undoubtedly affects me, too.</p>

<p>Generally speaking, the must go to top school mentality is good.
Most top schools are better academically than non top schools.</p>

<p>BIGTWIX.....</p>

<p>^^Exactely I 100% concur..its not a bad thing to want to go to a top school......</p>

<p>Alright, I think the point I was trying to convey has been lost in translation.</p>

<p>Your right, it's NOT a bad thing to go to a top school and these schools are very good BUT when people apply to schools just because of that reason and nothing else, you're doing yourself and others (who may be more interested in the particular school in the first place). That is what I was trying to convey.</p>

<p>and by that reason I mean "the name"</p>

<p>well I highly doubt that people are going 2 certain schools just 4 prestige because ummmm I think you're forgetting that on the application it asks for your MAJOR!! (((ding dong))).....so you have to have passion && have to at least go for something......I'm sure a large percentage of students who have strictly prestigious schools in mind also have an intended major....If not, then you're setting yourself up for distaster because Ivy schools are no cakewalk!....&& its either you swim or sink!</p>

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^ i agree. better/more prestigious college = better job opportunities. also....</p>

<p>going to a more prestigious school also helps with admissions into law/med/grad. school.</p>

<p>i plan on going to medical school, and through research, i have discovered that it is a really tough admissions process: only about 50% of pre-med students get into med. school. So, i know that going to a more prestigious school, like HYPSMBCC, will definitely increase my chances.</p>

<p>conclusion: finding a school that fits you is good. but for those who plan for the future, such as myself and So Auth., going to a more prestigious school is strategically smart and very beneficial.

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the stereotypical CC opinion... ah well... employers choose kids based on their character and work ethic, not just because of what college they went to... Would colleges really pick a kid who had a 2.0 GPA but only got into yale cuz daddy donated millions of dollars, or would they want someone who went to hopkins but excelled in everything?</p>

<p>Hopkins && Yale can be compared.....Hopkins is also elite........you didn't pic a good antithesis of Yale</p>

<p>I think people are forgetting that just because a college isn't an Ivy League school or isn't in the top ten, it doesn't necessarily mean that the school is unknown or significantly lower academically. Like the person above me pointed out, there are plenty of schools like Johns Hopkins that are still extremely good and recognizable by grad schools and future employers.</p>

<p>Why do people want to get corporate and business jobs? So they can be evil?</p>

<p>fhqwgads2005 </p>

<p>"Why do people want to get corporate and business jobs? So they can be evil? "</p>

<p>NO one ever said that............how does having a corporate job result in being evil.....im puzzled</p>

<p>The OP talked about searching for colleges with no core curriculum. Could someone please list some examples of American schools like this?? Preferably some that I may have heard of, but did not know had no core curriculum. Thank you.</p>

<p>Amherst College!!!....</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amherst.edu/acad_life/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amherst.edu/acad_life/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Neither Brown or Vassar have a core curriculum.</p>

<p>Williams, too, doesn't but we have a not-too-burdensome divisional requirement.</p>

<p>"Generally speaking, the must go to top school mentality is good. </p>

<p>I can't accept this. Perhaps this is true for that top 1 percent of the population who can compete at that level and enjoy doing so, but for the majority of the population, which includes a lot of people successful in other ways, it seems demoralizing to always be working toward something that is limited by something outside of their control. In this case, the number of openings at a "top school". My husband and I disagree about this. He went to an Ivy, and I went to a historically black university. We both got something really different but equally significant from our education, and we both ended up with a lot of great options. It's also interesting to note that he was born in Jamaica, WI, and I was born in Jamaica, Queens. He believs education is everything,. I believe every day you come home alive and glad about it is a good day. It's possible this forum isn't appropriate for most people, but there are a lot of good resources here. I think about referring people here from time to time, but I worry that it's just too demoralizing for all but the top 1 or 2 percent of the college bound population.</p>

<p>SoAuthentic..."ding dong?" but most schools have lots of majors and most schools are fairly strong in a lot of majors. If you want to talk major, there are a bunch of schools that are not top 25 that make top 1 in a certain major...</p>

<p>And yes, I don't know if you know this, but a lot of people apply to ALL the ivies and the only reason for this can be for the prestige. There is research or major involved in this because not every ivy league has an amazingly strong program in everything people want to study.</p>

<p>CC really is a lost cause...All I was saying is that there is more beyond the ivy league and top schools; there's more but many of you won't accept that.</p>