<p>I am a Sophomore at private day school and will be transferring to a boarding school for my junior and senior year of high school. this is in part due to low level that my sport is played at my current school and in my league, and the fact that the boarding school has a abundance of academic advantages over my current school. how do i present this to coaches as I will not only be changing schools but club teams as well at a rather bizarre time in my HS academic and athletic career. should i shoot an email off to the interested coaches about where i will be going to school next year and which club i will be competing for next year.</p>
<p>Also when DI schools send you a questionnaire how interested are they in you, relative to a D3 coach talking to you in person.</p>
<p>also does anyone know what the AI (academic index) is for a Double legacy athlete at an IVY</p>
<p>It might be good for you to look for some athletes/parents on the CC athletic forum who are in your sport and send them a PM with some of your questions. We all understand your desire to be a little anonymous at this point, but you might get the best answers from people who can specifically address your sport and the schools you are most interested in. </p>
<p>In general terms, I think yes, you should email the coaches and schools you are interested in, who have expressed interest in you. Also contact coaches at schools you want but who haven’t discovered you yet. Maybe the time to do this is right after your grades come out in June. You can then send your academic stats current through your sophomore year, an update on your athletic highlights, and your new contact information for fall, including your club team and new coach’s name and email.</p>
<p>AI for an Ivy is a big debate topic on this forum. Someone will correct me if I’m wrong but I would say if the coach at an Ivy/top DIII wants you on his team, being in the top 10% of your class and having an SAT score of right around 2000 is going to be fine. If you’re at an academically top-notch school, of course, you can be lower in the class, or if you’re in the very top echelon in your sport. And I don’t mean at your school. I mean in the world. The GC at your new school can give you the best idea of how you will fare as a recruit in both the Ivies and DIIIs, based on their history with students, since they’ll have experience with kids in your sport who have attempted admission at all kinds of schools.</p>
<p>DIs (including Ivies) send out thousands of recruiting questionaires. They’re not a personal contact by any stretch of the imagination. DIII coaches who take the time to talk to you are the real deal. </p>
<p>both the school that i am at currently and the boarding school that i will be attending next year have outstanding Ivy matriculation for example my current school has 10 kids going to Upenn out of a class of 120 i am by no means the top student in my grade but i maintain a high B average, and the boarding school which i will be attending next year is even more rigorous academically and has a very high standing with the Ivies and other schools of the like. </p>
<p>the sport that i play is soccer
i was selected to the Super Y ODP national team camp
I play for the state ODP team and am on the roster of 18
Club team
ranked in top 20 in northeast
had been ranked in the top 50 but due to weather ruining our scheduled spring tournaments our ranking has fallen
Super Y Mid-atlantic division champions
Finished 5th at Nationals
varsity starter as a freshman
only 10th grader on club all seniors and juniors</p>
<p>You’ve come to the right place, Hcos. There are some really nice soccer parents on this forum. Hang in there: advice is coming. We’ll all tell you to do your very best in school, though. Don’t let up now! Academically, you’ve got this spring and then your junior year to record good grades. Recruiting will take place right after your junior year, so the only grades you can still control, and that will be on your applications, are this semester, and next year. Keep up the hard work.</p>
<p>riverrunner gives good advice. The Ivies DONT want kids who can’t keep up with the academic work, and they have a huge applicant pool, so even with great stats, the bar is high. Get the best grades you possibly can, sounds like you already “got game”.</p>
<p>Hcos – I’d say you’re on the right track athletically and academically for being recruited by a top college. Your transfer is not unusual, though maybe there are more soccer players that do a PG year rather than transfer altogether. At S’s private day school, the best squash players and female hockey players usually transfer to NE boarding schools.</p>
<p>As for AI: legacy status isn’t a factor in AI, but, of course, it can be a boost to help with admissions. By “double legacy” do you mean both parents? If so, that will weigh in your favor. Not all schools consider a grandparent alum to confer legacy status. </p>
<p>Definitely let the coaches know where you are now. If you’re going to be playing in showcases with your new club team, you’ll be providing coaches with your soccer profile that will have all your updated info. On line questionnaires can be updated, too.</p>
<p>my mother, my grandfather and his father all went to one Ivy
so i thought 1 + .5 + .5 = 2 of course i could be wrong thats just what i thought it was</p>
<p>HCos…Unfortunately, most DI coaches follow the Academy teams now (this has been told to us by several DI coaches). ODP is pretty much an after-thought. It did hurt my son soccer-wise (he has a profile much like yours) to go to BS even though it is a very strong school team. If you can play Academy, it will help you a lot. </p>
<p>As far as Ivies go…the one we visited, the coach told us the average AI they work with is a 210 (the team needs to average this). He said at least 600 per section on the SAT and since the school doesn’t rank (most bs don’t), this is helpful. He said that the strenth of the school is definitely taken into account and that they are very familiar with all of the New England BS and know how rigorous they are. He said he wasn’t sure if the gpa was “bumped up” for these schools (according to the counselors at my son’s school, they are). My son currently has a 3.3 GPA, but for this particular Ivy at his school, the average admitted gpa is only a 3.24. This might sound low, but is actually a very good gpa for the rigor of these schools.</p>
<p>I will most likely be playing with the bolts while at MX
while USSDA might be the be all and end all in new england in the mid Atlantic its not
on my club team we have 3 kids who started or were the first two off the bench at BWG and red bull but decided to play with my club team granted we did beat the BWG u16’s 4-0 in a scrimmage but I know that ODP is no longer a big deal but in terms of playing club you don’t need to play ussda to get good looks not yet they say in two or three years if you don’t play ussda you will not get looked at but as of now i don’t think it matters as much as it will. anyways it doesn’t matter as i will most likely be playign for the bolts which are ussda anyways</p>
<p>I agree with you, Hcos. I think you are doing the right things soccer-wise. As you probably know, the stronger a player you are, the weaker a student you can be, provided you fit in the AI ballpark for an Ivy. Don’t underestimate the importance of your grades and test scores when it comes to the Ivies or the top NESCAC schools (if you’re considering them).</p>
<p>how would being a fullpay student throughout University affect the admissions obviously
it could only be beneficially but would that play into where my AI needs to be for certain schools thanks</p>
<p>Generally you don’t have to disclose whether you’ll be applying for Finaid until late in the process. It’s just a box you check on the Common App, and the Ivies are need blind. </p>
<p>Having said all that, I’ve often had the same question: if you announce to a coach that you wouldn’t be applying for finaid because your family’s EFC is more than $50,000, does the coach register that comment and think about it at all? Especially now? I have no idea if admissions asks coaches to consider this in recruiting. I’d love to know though.</p>
<p>If and how financial need impacts athletic recruiting is an interesting question. My thinking is that significant financial need could very well be a recruiting advantage for the student, and therefore a positive in the eyes of coaches. Since the Ivies can’t offer athletic money, their great FA might be what draws a top athlete away from a strong non-Ivy D1 program which can only offer a small partial athletic scholarship or none at all, or instead only weak FA. Very few kids receive full athletic rides, and from these boards I’ve gotten the sense that most kids are offered under $10,000 in athletic money. So the FA package could be an attractive perk an Ivy coach can use in recruiting. </p>
<p>For the non-Ivy D1, a lot of financial need could also work to the athlete’s favor. The coach migh prefer such a recruit because to get him he wouldn’t have to dip into his supply of athletic money, since he knows the financial need is such that the school’s need-based FA could be greater than whatever he might offer in athletic money. He can save his athletic scholarhip funds to lure the talented affluent kids.</p>
<p>But what about a kid who has athletic talent, top academic stats, and no chance of qualifying for finaid? Should that student reveal to the coach that he doesn’t need any finaid, and will it tip the balance when weighed against an equally talented student who needs/wants aid (athletic, merit or need-based) from the school? I think that’s what Hcos is asking.</p>
<p>Yes, I understand his question, but was trying to point out that this might not be as cut and dried as it appears, because the OP’s logic might be based on a faulty assumption: that needing aid would obviously be viewed as a disadvantage from the coach’s/college’s perspective, and so by extension not needing aid must be an advantage. I would think it would largely depend on who the athlete’s competition is for that spot, how much the athlete with need is worth to the school in comparison with other prospective recruits who may or may not have need, and how much money is in that college’s FA and athletic budget. No coach ever implied to us that financial need would be a consideration in any way, but then I suppose it wouldn’t be PC to admit that. All the same, the coaches seemed most concerned with academic admissability, and then after that it came down to athletic value and nothing more. They tell admissions who they want and admissions tries to accommodate their wish list. Since athletes tend to be admitted ED, I would think finances would be less of a consideration at that stage. </p>
<p>Regardless, many recruiting questionnaires ask if the student will be applying for financial aid so the OP is not going to have a choice about revealing that information anyway.</p>
<p>Hi GFG,
I looked at Yale’s recruiting questionaire, and they do ask, on a scale of 1-5 how important financial aid is to you. I might be slightly misquoting, but that’s the essence of it. I don’t remember that question from a couple years ago when we were filling these things out.
Maybe I’m missing something, but how could a college not look favorably on a recruit who is completely self-pay, if everything else is equal? I’m not very knowledgable about finaid, and I think the OP is in the same boat!</p>
<p>I honestly believe the schools that call themselves. ‘need blind’ are just that. I don’t think the athlete’s ability to pay matters one bit. Asking how important fin aid is to an athlete at these schools may help the coach identify prospects that he has a good shot at wooing from the scholarship schools.</p>
but I would say if the coach at an Ivy/top DIII wants you on his team, being in the top 10% of your class and having an SAT score of right around 2000 is going to be fine. If you’re at an academically top-notch school, of course, you can be lower in the class, or if you’re in the very top echelon in your sport. And I don’t mean at your school. I mean in the world. The GC at your new school can give you the best idea of how you will fare as a recruit in both the Ivies and DIIIs, based on their history with students, since they’ll have experience with kids in your sport who have attempted admission at all kinds of schools.</p>