I Really need this Answered (HEOP/NOP Question

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<p>I want to know if I qualify for HEOP/NOP and if so what are my chances. Please I need someone who KNOWS about HEOP! I was in the What are my Chances section and no one knows! This is for the school of Engineering!</p>

<p>Family Income:$10,000
Ethnicity:Latino (Peruvian)
First Generation going to College
GPA: 3.61 (90.49%)
SAT CR: 670 (took it twice this was my best score, the first time I got a 540)
SAT M: 680 (took it twice this was my best score, the first time I got a 640)
SAT W: 640 (again took it twice this was my best score, the first time I got a 600)
SATII Physics: 610
SATII Math 1: 620
APs: AP Computer Science A (I got a 4)
AP World History (I got a 4)
AP Spanish (Didn't take the test yet)
AP Statistics (Didn't take the test yet)</p>

<p>Curriculum: All honors courses and APs since freshman year. I am also a year a head in math and science (I took two regents in middle school). I am also in a bridge year program with Queens College that is allowing me to take 2 Queens college classes per semester this year. At Queens College I am currently taking Freshman Humanities Seminar (HTH101) and The Physics of Sound (PHYS007). I am also doing a Robotics independent study</p>

<p>Extra Curricular Activities: US FIRST Robotics team member (I'm the captain of our teams programming division, been on since the second year the team started, 2 years counting this year), I amateur box (yes box), American Computer Science League (3 years), 200 hours community service with New Immigrant Community Empowerment, 50 Hours Community Service under Former Senator John Sabini (He left for another position in Albany and I lost my job with him), WPI FRONTIERS Robotics Summer Program Participant, Manhattan College Summer Program For Women and Minority Students Interested in Engineering Participant (yes that's the long name the program has),</p>

<p>Recognitions: National Honor Society, National Society for High School Scholars, National Latin Examination I: Magna Cum Laude Silver Medal. My school's Deans/Principal's List</p>

<p>Recommendations: 1 from my Calculus Teacher (She's had me for Sophomore and Junior Year, knows me quite well) and 1 from my Physics/Robotics teacher who is also my Robotics independent study mentor AND my US FIRST ROBOTICS team coach (Definitely a good rec. He's gotten one of my friends into Dartmouth and another into Columbia(the kid who got into Dartmouth has my GPA but 1410 SAT M+CR).</p>

<p>Essay: People have told me that it is GREAT. I worked on it for months!</p>

<p>Misc: I have a rare autoimmune Disease called Still's Disease, which attacks my skin and joints, that effects my everyday life. I wrote about it in my Columbia Essay as a significant adversity I have had to face. I also come from a single parent home, my father abandoned my mom and I when I was 4.</p>

<p>Columbia is my top school, do I have a chance in HEOP/NOP?</p>

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<p>Bumps!!! Anyone Please!</p>

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<p>bump
from their website, it seems as if they don’t care/don’t have maximum test scores or GPAs like other nys universities…</p>

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<p>So I qualify right? What do you thing about my chances</p>

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<p>Don’t worry, I know HEOP since I’m applying to several schools via HEOP. You really do have a good chance of getting in through HEOP since it specifically says that you have to come from a low income family, be inadmissible to the college, yet a top performer in high school. By the way, may I ask which high school you’re from?</p>

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<p>and i forgot to mention, your ECs are great! and way to go on your improvement on the CR section. your stats are way ahead of mine (jealousyy ;))what other colleges did you apply to? i wouldn’t be surprised if you got in without HEOP/NOP.</p>

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<p>I go to Townsend Harris High School in Flushing, Queens, NY.</p>

<p>I am applying to 2 HEOP/NOP Schools, Columbia Engineering (My number 1 choice, really hope I get in!!!) and Cornell Engineering</p>

<p>Then I am also applying to Cooper Union (because it is Free and money is a HUGE issue for me), The Macaulay Honors College @ City College (Free Tuition + Free Laptop = :)), Manhattan College (Safety and they give out really good finacial aid from what I heard at the summer program), and NYU Polytech. (Safety), </p>

<p>about improving on the CR section of the SAT, it helped a lot having seen the types of questions and everything. The first time I went in blind. Then I was like ok at least I know what to expect and my friend who did really well gave me his big blue review book! I really hit that book hard to improve my CR. Thanks for the words of encouragement!</p>

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<p>btw anyone else have an opinion!? It would be greatly appreciated!</p>

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<p>bump. please anyone else???</p>

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<p>anyone else have an opinion!? It would be greatly appreciated!</p>

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<p>Bump!!!</p>

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<p>More opinions would be greatly appreciated! Please I am getting really anxious! I don’t know how I am goinbg to survive until March/April!</p>

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<p>Bump please anyone!</p>

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<p>bump!!!</p>

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<p>More opinions would be greatly appreciated! Please I am getting really anxious! I don’t know how I am goinbg to survive until March/April!</p>

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<p>Bump please people i am getting really anxious :(</p>

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<p>walter- you go to TH right? i know some kids who did HEOP a few things to know.</p>

<p>1) HEOP/NOP are competitive programs, columbia gets a lot of low-income applicants and not all of them are admitted through the program.</p>

<p>2) The only main thing about the programs is an income restriction, which you definitely would fit into.</p>

<p>3) HEOP is more structured than NOP, it has a convoluted rule that basically says that it is to admit promising students that otherwise would not quite make it. The hard part about Columbia is that it is holistic in its admissions, and therefore it is not easy to know where the draw the line because there is no easy number. I don’t know how they figure it out, but they probably have to fit somehow within the state guidelines of trying to promote students that are close, but perhaps not quite a clear admit. They will then provide the support to help you succeed at Columbia.</p>

<p>4) Big question: are you a US citizen/permanent resident? Because the HEOP site says you have to be eligible for federal/state financial aid.</p>

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<p>Yes I am a us citizen. I applied for fafsa and I am going to apply for tap. So do you think I am in that field of applicants who might be admit through one of the 2 programs? </p>

<p>Also, I thought heop/nop were the same program. They are not? If not, could I be accepted into one or the other? Both?</p>

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<p>heop is for nys, nop is for the whole country, once admitted it becomes the same program. but you are admitted to one of the two (and even if you live in nys, you can be admitted to nop).</p>

<p>i don’t know if you’re in the field of applicants. i don’t know what columbia looks for in those applicants, but it is entirely possible you could be admitted, you could be admitted via heop or nop, you could be denied straight out, you could be denied even though you were considered for heop/nop. your test scores are pretty good for a low-income, first generation, latino american. and that is kind of why i don’t know what they will do. you clearly are close enough for them to consider you actively to be admitted straight out and not just through heop/nop.</p>

<p>my suggestion: you submitted your application, there is nothing you can really do at this point. trust that columbia will do its job. and though that girl pigs<em>at</em>sea received a ‘likely letter,’ she hasn’t been admitted either! no one has been admitted regular until late march/early august. so take a deep breath, and enjoy your last semester.</p>