<p>I am a Pakistani and I've wanted to get into Yale since I was a kid. I will be applying early this November (Hopefully) But i have a few questions.
I don't know if i will ever be accepted but I want a few tips. I gave SAT this May and scored horribly: I got a 1790 but will give it again in October. I want to give Math1 and Biology as Sat 2, and was just wondering whether I could give all of this (SAT 1's and SAT II's) this October because i need to apply early. The deadline is november, But im not sure about when to give my tests. Could i give them in one moth or could i giev sat 1 in oct and sat 2 in nov and still apply early?
Also, I need good college essay tips. I was going to write about how I changed when I changed my school in grade 10, I transferred to one of the best schools in Pakistan and moved on to new things, demonstrated leadership qualities in different events and let go of the typical mindset that a good Pakistani woman has to be pious and should know how to make good food. My journey of being a self empowered women and wanted to go to Yale to experience/ exploit new talents and use leadership skills for leading my country, taking inspiration from our first educated leader Imran Khan.
Just needed some views about that :)</p>
<p>Applying as an international puts you in the most competitive pool due to Yale’s excellent Fin Aid policies. Anything below SAT 2100 is typically unrealistic given the quality of applications each year.</p>
<p>Are you considering a wide variety of US colleges?</p>
<p>Yeah, I want to apply to mostly Ivys but I’m confused about which one to apply early to. I was considering Yale for early, but saying applying to a less competitive Ivy( Less Pakistanis applying to that one as early applicants) make a difference? Like Dartmouth? Yeah I will try to pull that score off in my next try, but I think other than that I should be safe. Can we apply early to only one college? And if we apply to that, we cant apply regular to that?
And what do you think about the essay idea? Could I go with that?</p>
<p>"Are you considering a wide variety of US colleges? "</p>
<p>“I want to apply to mostly Ivys”</p>
<p>This sentiment will lead you to only disappointment. If you’re serious about attending a solid US college, then your goal should be to find a wide (non-Ivy) group of them. May I suggest you go to the International Forums and see what advice others give?</p>
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<p>A 1790SAT pakistani applicant cannot logically target top 15 US colleges.</p>
<p>If you use that essay, don’t call yourself a women. Woman is singular, women is plural. There’s no way to tell if an essay is good without reading it. </p>
<p>I don’t think anyone should apply to all the ivies because they’re all different. </p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are all single choice early action. If you use this option, you can’t apply to any other school early. If admitted, you have until May to commit to attending. The remaining ivies are early decision. If admitted, you must commit to attend in December and withdraw applications from anywhere else you applied. If you apply early to any college and are rejected, you can’t reapply regular decision. </p>
<p>There is no such thing as being “safe” for admissions. Thousands of kids with perfect grades and scores are rejected every year. The acceptance rate for Yale this year was around 6%. Unless you bring your SAT score up to at least 2100 ( and you take the SAT, you don’t give it), your chances of being admitted to Yale or similar schools are extremely low. Even with a score increase your chances are very low. The international pool is highly competitive and admit rates are very low.</p>
<p>If you can raise your SAT score to about a 2200 or above, then you are competitive academically for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford (most selective ivies). Also, shoot for a score of around 700 on your SAT Subject tests. Above around 2000-2100 makes you competitive for other top 15 schools. Especially with the EXTREMELY competitive international pool, your SAT score really needs improvement before you are competitive as an applicant - and you would STILL need stand out recommendations, essays, extracurriculars, and other academic credentials before anyone could say that you have a shot.</p>
<p>Unless you can raise your SAT score to a 2100+, I would say that Yale is not a logical choice to apply EA. Your score could get you into many other US colleges, but for Yale, you’re nowhere near even the 25th percentile. </p>
<p>However, if you think you can work hard enough to raise it that high, it might look good because you can show colleges that you can work hard to achieve your goals.</p>
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<p>The CB website states how many/which tests you can take at a single sitting.</p>
<p>The Y website gives the last date that they will accept SAT scores for SCEA.</p>
<p>The primary source is always the best place to find this kind of information.</p>
<p>Ohh. I might not have a great sat score but I am willing to try hard and give it my best, because I really want to go. Thanks for all the advice and harsh reality!
Umm I was told that you don’t need to declare your major and you can write undecided when applying. So, and i don’t know if its a good idea, if you write something like a double major in med and global affairs, would that make a difference or increase your chances even slightly because it shows diversity? And you can always change your major later so that’s not a problem.
But because I have studied sciences from the get go, and even though i MIGHT not continue with them in the future, would writing pre med and global affairs make any kind of difference?
And if not writing it down as your major, at least mentioning about your interest in them in your essay, do any good?</p>
<p>“So, and i don’t know if its a good idea, if you write something like a double major in med and global affairs, would that make a difference or increase your chances even slightly because it shows diversity?”</p>
<p>No for two reasons: 1) Because Yale offers neither as a major. As a matter of fact, no US college offers “pre-med” as a major.</p>
<p>2) Yale doesn’t care what you state so you get no advantage, whatever you state.</p>
<p>Have you considered my advice to you in post #4?</p>
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<p>There is no right or wrong topic for an essay, it’s all about what you say and how you say it. But I will say that an essay with a smattering of different comments about yourself is not likely to be a strong one.</p>
<p>I definitely have! And it makes sense! I want to also apply to colleges like Northwestern, Wellesley, Virginia, John Hopkins, Pomona and Georgetown. I will obviously choose out of these and Ivys, since I can only apply to about 8 colleges. But since I want to apply early, I will most likely be applying to Yale, Harvard or Princeton. My heart’s on Yale, so lets see if I can pull off a good SAT score, or I wont apply early, not at all.
Okay, so then I definitely got this wrong. Since Yale has an option of double majoring in subjects, Global Affairs and pre med are two separate undergrad courses so I thought declaring them or showing an interest in pursuing these subjects would strike as diverse and impressing. I could be wrong though.
Also for the essay, the topics will be given or are we allowed to make a topic of our own choice?
Also, can I get an email address of an admission officer for international students in Yale, Harvard or Princeton so I can get in touch with them and get added to the mailing address in order to stay posted ?</p>
<p>@Tanya: Honestly, with a 1790 SAT you are not a competitive applicant for Northwestern, Wellesley, Virginia, John Hopkins, Pomona and Georgetown, let alone HYP. If you cannot bring your SAT score up to 2100+, you should be thinking about applying to different colleges. Here are two recourses for someone in your situation:
[A+</a> Schools for B Students | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus]A+”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus)
[SAT/ACT</a> Optional 4-Year Universities | FairTest](<a href=“http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional]SAT/ACT”>ACT/SAT Optional List - Fairtest)</p>
<p>Tanya, before you start applying to colleges, you need to do some serious research, here are a few points:</p>
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<li><p>As gibby and T23E4 have stated, with your current test score, you need to look at less selective colleges than the Ivies and the ones you’ve mentioned. </p></li>
<li><p>Look at the college websites, they will give you a list of possible majors, for instance Y:</p></li>
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<p>[Majors</a> in Yale College | Yale College](<a href=“http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/majors-yale-college-0]Majors”>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/content/majors-yale-college-0)</p>
<p>Not to mention, everything you need to know about requirements for testing, contact information, etc. </p>
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<li>Preparation for medical school likely works differently here in the US than in Pakistan, so use Google and find out what being premed means here; one good site is AAMC:</li>
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<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/students/[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/students/</a></p>
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<li>Once you look at the college websites, you will see that many of them use the Common Application. Go to the CA website to get information on what the essay topics will be next year, as well as other information on how to apply.</li>
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<p>^^ With regards to #4, see:
<a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/DownloadForms/2013/EssayAnnouncementFinal.pdf[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/DownloadForms/2013/EssayAnnouncementFinal.pdf</a>
<a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Members.aspx[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Members.aspx</a>
<a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/default.aspx[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Tanya, take a look at this site. [eduPASS:</a> The SmartStudent Guide to Studying in the USA](<a href=“http://www.edupass.org/]eduPASS:”>http://www.edupass.org/) It is specifically designed for international students who want to study in the US. </p>
<p>With your current test scores, you have almost no chance of being admitted to any schools on your list. Focus your time on improving your scores, then worry about how to fill out applications next fall.</p>