I want to leave!

<p>Hello all,</p>

<p>I'm a junior (in high school) from Southern California. I'm thinking of applying to such schools as Stanford, UCLA, NYU, UCSD, Berkeley, Columbia, etc. But more and more the appeal of leaving America entirely is growing on me. I'm really interested in schools in Europe. I'm planning on majoring in communications or business, so I was wondering if any of you knew of any good schools in Europe. I'm looking for schools of similar quality of the American schools I'm applying to. Any suggestions? Particularly England, Italy, and Spain would be nice. Thanks!</p>

<p>I know that in England Oxford and Cambridge are considered to be some of the best.</p>

<p>Also consider Canadian schools. I think U of Toronto has a strong communications program.</p>

<p>Yeah, University of Toronto does have a good communications school. McGill university has more of an international/european feel to the city (montreal) and the campus, but not as strong a program.</p>

<p>universities in spain are good, but the system is so much different to the american that i'm not sure you'll like 'em. Anyway, if what ur looking for is change, ESADE is a very prestigious private business and law school that u should consider. </p>

<p>There are many others, btw, that will offer u a good education, but spanish education is not internationally prestigious, although maybe, u being american and having studied in spain..... yeah, that sounds good i guess. </p>

<p>I can't tell u much more about concrete universities because, although i'm spanish, i am actually planning on leaving! I wanna study in the UK.... btw, if any of u have info on how to choose a university (not cambridge and oxford, which i already set as high reaches) please help!! Any info would be wonderful. My area of interest is math/physics/astronomy.... something like that</p>

<p>Besos!</p>

<p>st. andrew's in scotland is supposed to be really good</p>

<p>Depends on what for; Oxford and Cambridge are both brilliant but extremely hard to get into - your essays and grades have to be perfect and you need to be great at interviews. Leeds Metropolitan is quite good.</p>

<p>Yeah, no way I'm getting into Oxbridge..... so hey! I need info!!! jaja Thanx a lot u guys! If u happen to come across with any other info please help! Thanxx!!!</p>

<p>Besos</p>

<p>Those colleges admit juniors? or are you thinking about next year?</p>

<p>I recommend a board like this in the UK</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.thestudentroom.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If you like League tables, the Time publishes a UK University league table here.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,716,00.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,716,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I can see the page but I suspect people outside the UK have to subscribe. The top 10 are</p>

<p>1 Oxford<br>
2 Cambridge
3 Imperial College
4 London School of Economics
5 Warwick
6 University College London
7 York
8 Durham
9 St Andrews
10 Loughborough</p>

<p>Leeds Metropolitain is ranked 75 out of 99 in total. You think that is good? I've never even heard of it. Uni of Leeds, which is a different uni in the same town, is ranked 34.</p>

<p>There are also subject specific tables which vary quite a lot because some overall lowly ranked unis specialise in one specific area are are ranked highly for that.</p>

<p>For business I believe the subject tables rank: the LSE, UCL, Warwick, Bath at the top but not in that specific order. And cupcake's link is brilliant, you don't have to be in the UK to access it for free. </p>

<p>I live in Madrid, Spain, universities I recommend are: Complutense, CESMA, which tend to be good at business, law, social sciences in general. There is a Saint Louis here which takes its courses directly from the St. Louis in the US, so you can get in using SAT scores and you get American credits., but live here in Madrid.</p>

<p>Edinburgh is also a fantastic university, and the city itself is one of the most beautiful and vibrant in the UK. In my opinion, anyway. ;)</p>

<p>Yes, I was thinking about 2006, not next year.... I'm a little ahead I guess! haha. Thanx very much for ur help! Do any of u kno how good the university of liverpool and of southampton are supposed to be? I'm looking for science degrees. I will most likely study some math or physics degree so....</p>

<p>Besos!</p>

<p>oh my goodness cupcake...now i will never get any work done with two college messageboards to peruse.
man, i need to get some willpower...must...do...statistics...</p>

<p>which ones would also be relatively cheap??</p>

<p>in France the universities are free</p>

<p>even for internationals?? Wow, that would be amazing!!</p>

<p>in spain the universities are also for free... i have no idea about internationals, truth be told, i doubt there's any of them and any internationals that there are are probably on an exchange programme.</p>

<p>In most European countries univeristies are free to their citizens because they have already paid for them through higher tax. For foreign students though the fees are very expensive (though only about the same as US colleges) and there is no such thing as financial aid. If you are an EU citizen you apply the same way as home students in the UK and pay only the home students' fees. If you are from outside the EU you have to provide proof of funds for your entire course in full before you can start. (students cannot say they will work to get the money. They have to have all the money - usually about £10,000 a year living costs plus fees - before they start.) I don't know how it works in other countries but rest assured you don't get anything for free.</p>

<p>In sweden the government pays you to go to college. And you can go to European universities for free if you are in somewhat affiliated with their education system or something.</p>