<p>seriously people, WHO CARES?!?!?! five years from now none of this will matter because we'll all be successful adults who have graduated from great colleges! seriously just drop it!</p>
<p>seconded .</p>
<p>can ppl just let this go......as i said many times before that IB is a special program that allows you to take IB classes for the same amount of credit AP.....ppl in the IB program can also take AP classes so i n reality the only difference is one is more selective over the other</p>
<p>Conclusion: IB is far better than AP.</p>
<p>hahahaha just wanted to see how many people i can **** off. this thread must live on.</p>
<p>Conclusion: I am the best controversial thread maker ever.</p>
<p>And nobody has even considered honors courses yet!</p>
<p>That's in part because without external testing, honors courses are so school-dependent that it's incredibly difficult to say anything about them. At my sister's old school the honors courses use college-level textbooks, but at my school many honors classes are a complete joke. (I don't even think we offer non-honors classes except for PE and such.)</p>
<p>^I agree. At my school, honors classes are mixed with regular classes (meaning one class could have 50% honors students and 50% regular students), so the coursework is the same for both. One would be ignorant to choose regular over honors at my school.</p>
<p>Haha, wow. Honors MIXED with Regulars in one class... lol</p>
<p>Yes! It's terrible haha. The regular kids are too friggin' loud, and all they want to do is talk, not learn. It's hard for me to concentrate in classes like those. Hence the reason I take AP classes.</p>
<p>I'm currently a Pre-IB sophomore and I can tell you right now that there is no difference in the level of difficulty between Pre-IB classes (9th and 10th grade) and honors classes. Pre-IB classes are just honors classes composed of people who were accepted into IB and will be in IB for 11th and 12th grade (as long as they maintain a minimum 3.0 GPA).</p>
<p>The IB Diploma Programme is new, especially in North America, and therefore developing. Although most universities in the US recognize it, the courses offered are limited, where AP offers more courses. IB is international and said to be more "hands on" and somewhat more challenging than AP. Others say AP is more challenging. Regardless of which is actually more difficult, theoretical, and "hands-on", universities will see both IB and AP as the same level of achievement upon admission. Over the next two years I will be taking a courses as part of a full IB Diploma but also several AP courses, which will include at least Calculus BC and Computer Science A [no CS AB at my school :-( ].</p>
<p>AP I think includes more students. The people who take AP aren't always like smart people or anything. There's no commitment so more regular people take it also. For IB though I think it's a HUGE commitment so it has more hard working people.</p>
<p>^^ Well if people who aren't smart take AP classes, then they will get poor grades and not pass the AP test, so its a trade-off. But you are right, the IB program is a big commitment, and it probably weeds out the not-so-serious students.</p>
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<p>People take AP for a reason - to get passing scores, and hopefully college credit. So, why would alot of regular people want to take it?</p>
<p>In my personal experiences, you can tell which kids in AP classes don't care. They usually drop the class, and if they don't, then they most likely barely scrape a C. I could care less that they aren't committed. They're only hurting themselves.</p>
<p>What does your point prove?</p>
<p>^^^^ Pwned :0</p>
<p>click click..it basically sums up these arguments.. except whatt is this cambridge deal?</p>
<p>Our school only considers classes that are pretty hard to be honors (with the exception of a few really pathetic ones). However, a lot of schools just slap the title "Honors" on every course.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I like AP better than IB is the option of independent study. The entire AP program is very flexible.</p>
<p>Also, a good teacher will include in his/her AP class just as much thinking/analyzing as any IB class. Heck, I do enough analyzing in my current American Lit (Honors) <<(one of the courses that really shouldn't be honors) class.</p>
<p>thanks for reviving this argument, mr_k.</p>
<p>I'm the king of controversial threads.....</p>
<p>^ apparantly</p>
<p>imo, the IB program is comparable to AP in difficulty. if you take AP, you may end up taking more tests because AP's are all one year courses. At my school, you are only allowed to take IB or AP after soph year. AP is not that much harder than IB b/c core IB classes are two years, and IB generally goes into more depth. </p>
<p>If you look at the chemistry, math, or history, IB is more in depth. for example, AP calc BC = IB Math HL 1, and the IB Math HL II course covers things like vectors, stats, probability, etc.<br>
a minor difference probably for IB is that there is an oral component to the History and foreign languages, tho I dont know the case for AP. </p>
<p>a major difference between IB and AP imo is that IB encourages much more of a global perspective. IB History II is called Topics in twentieth century world history, which covers not only the US but other parts of the world as well. in theory of knowledge, if you take only an american perspective on an issue you write about, your grade will tank. </p>
<p>however, as an IB student, I would get far less credit than an AP student because AP is far better known. some colleges only grant credit for 6/7 or 7/7 on IB exams even though getting those kind of grades is harder than getting 5/5 on an ap exam.</p>