<p>i just finished midterms and am left with this sense of aimlessness that i feel can only be reconciled by a little philanthropy. </p>
<p>so, like.. ask questions, f00lz.</p>
<p>is it a lot harder than cc?</p>
<p>Back already?</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>this website is like a drug. As much as you ***** and moan, your boredom will always bring you back. I’ve been there pink…i’ve been there.</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just a quick question. I’m in my first semester of JC, hoping to be TAP certified when when applying. My first choice is economics, but my 2nd option is philosophy, as TAP students can be considered for their backup major. </p>
<p>My school only offers one of the pre-reqs for the Philosophy major at UCLA according to assist. </p>
<p>[ASSIST</a> Report: MTSAC 09-10 UCLA Articulation Agreement by Major](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST)</p>
<p>So just making sure, I will only have to complete that one class correct? Should I make an extra effort to try and find another JC that offers the other courses? ( Phil 7,21,22,31)</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
<p>everyone can read really fast at UCLA huh?</p>
<p>yo pinker…</p>
<p>You went to Pierce right? what is the comparison from UCLA Phil classes and Pierce? </p>
<p>How many major classes are you taking this semester? How many classes will you need to graduate if you have looked into it at all?</p>
<p>What are your grades looking like so far? Hope all is well with you, and thanks for coming back to tell us about it</p>
<p>Hey pinkerfloyd, do you have a specific area of concentration ?</p>
<p>no answers lol</p>
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<p>without a doubt, yes.
the reading load is easily four times as much as i had in CC phil classes and more dense. well, sort of… i’m taking two phil classes right now, 100a (ancient greek), which is a required course for the major, and 183 (theory of knowledge), which is a survey course that expounds on various methods of defining and conceptualizing ‘knowledge’.
in 100a, the readings are long, but sort of fun, if you like that dialectic ish… it’s an 8am class that i haven’t been to even a single time since the first day of class. that aside, i still expect to be handed an A on the midterm –> cool topic: if you had the opportunity to kill your greedy, selfish parents for a ***** load of money + you’d never get caught for it + everyone thinks you’re a saint from then on, what advice would socrates give you? + discuss relevant aspects of the revaluation of values. </p>
<p>in 183, things are a little tougher. without getting into too much detail about the class, i’ll say that the class gets into more detail about ‘knowledge’ than you’d ever thought was possible. the theme of the class is incredibly general… there’s been one basic theory of knowledge for the past 50 years that philosophers have since picked apart… it’s the stuff of picking the theory apart that varies only slightly, uses similar terminology in sometimes ambiguous contexts and very particular in its implications… that’s what’ll have you sitting for 3 or 4 ours, running over the same page again and again and again…
i got a B+ on the (in class) midterm after cramming (and making up some reading) for 14 hours straight, the night before. i honestly believe that had i just started really studying a day earlier, i’d have pulled the A, easy.
again, it’s just a matter of putting in the time and doing the work (reading / reflecting)… if this type of stuff has been clicking for you in CC, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t here, too. honestly, it’s fun once you get into it… the hard part is reminding yourself of that: that it’s not ALL work, and you are actually interested in most of this. </p>
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<p>here’s the advice i’ve seen numerous others given when asking that same question: take the articulated class(es) that are offered at your CC. if there’s another CC somewhat nearby that offers what you need, try to handle that. if you can’t, try to take classes with titles similar to the titles of the prereqs. </p>
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<p>yeah… i guess we/they don’t have a choice.
feeling overwhelmed the first few weeks, i talked to a few people about the reading load, and i think the consensus (among students, at least) is that professors assign substantially more reading than they expect you’ll actually do.</p>
<p>an example: i’m taking an urban planning class in which, if i’d done all of the reading to date, i’d be at about the 500 page mark of some of the most boring, dated and depressing ish you can think of. in fact, i only read about 60 pages for that class total, did the paper the night before it was due, bullshat the 3rd prompt almost entirely, and quoted HEAVILY from the text for the 2nd, and received an A- … not too bad for a night’s work, right?</p>
<p>one thing i’ve learned after this first batch of tests, is that you really need to gauge your reading… if you can do it all, good for you. i can’t. so i try to pay attention to hints about which readings are most important, and read those. i also go to office hours, and TAs will straight up tell you what to read, where to look and generally what about what you’ve read is relevant</p>
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<p>yeah, i went to pierce. i think i discussed the difference above… namely, classes cover 4x the amount of material here… or at least it feels that way. </p>
<p>also, sitting in a room with brilliant professors / TAs, as opposed to people who are merely knowledgeable, is, to me, really inspiring. the TA for my 183 class got his maters at harvard, taught there for 3 years and is here now… the dude’s gotta be 30 or 31 years old, so he can still kind of relate to most of us… my prof for that class, Hsu, lectures from memory in the kind of detail and with the sort of insight and succinct clarity that doesn’t seem by any means ‘natural’… </p>
<p>i’m taking 2 phil classes and one elective. probably going to keep with 2 phil classes and a language next quarter. </p>
<p>i think you need something like 16 upper divs to satisfy the major. maybe it’s less… don’t take my word for it… i’ve got it all written down, but don’t feel like getting up to get it. look online… you’ll find it all out.</p>
<p>grades: of the three midterms i’ve had: 183, B+ (could have gotten the A if i hadn’t put it off til the night before)… urban planning, A- (another few hours’ effort would have probably made for a solid A, but whatever) … 100a, i’m anticipating an A, but we’ll see. </p>
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<p>i’m leaning toward the concentration in logic, but only because i think it’ll help with the LSAT. to be honest, i couldn’t give two sh7ts about sentential logic and the rest of that crap. they bore the hell out of me… in any even, i have to take at least two classes from the logic category of courses. the 3rd = ‘concentration’. </p>
<p>advice: </p>
<p>go to office hours with questions from the readings only AFTER you’ve actually read the material. if you’re trying to get things explained to you when you obviously haven’t read, you’re going to look like an a$$hole and an idiot. </p>
<p>that said, go to office hours for your TAs as well as your Profs.
TAs do the grading, so when they tell you something, you can be fairly sure that the same point / explanation will be relevant to the way your ish is graded. </p>
<p>procrastinate, sure… it’s not college if you don’t… but be reasonable. VERY FEW of you will be able to pull the night before crap, and when half of your class grade depends on a midterm, it’s an awfully big risk to take. </p>
<p>hope this helped… </p>
<p>it’s 3:15am and i’ve got discussion at 10.
thanks.</p>
<p>Hey PinkerFloyd! thanks a million for answering these questions, it has helped alot. Onw thing i would like to know though is what your transfer statistics were?</p>
<p>are the students at ucla generally competitive? Like they won’t share notes with you if you missed a class?</p>
<p>i had a 3.5, but my situation was pretty peculiar.
i failed and dropped classes for two years, racking 5 Fs a D and two Cs on my transcript + 9 Ws, i think.
for my second two years, i had something between 3.75 - 3.8.
of my last 9 classes, 8 were A’s.
all A’s in my phil classes. i think i took 7 total.
all prereqs satisfied. </p>
<p>admitted to SD, SB and LA, but not Cal, but i’m guessing that had i not experienced the ****ty two years, things might have been different. </p>
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<p>campus is divided into north and south.
north campus is the humanities / liberal arts.
south campus is hard sciences… bio, chem, physics, etc</p>
<p>north campus (where i am) is competitive in the sense that it’s obvious that people are striving to get good grades, but there’s no sabotaging or real stinginess with notes or anything…</p>
<p>south campus is a different story. unlike the straight grading format akin to most north campus classes, south campus’ are dominantly curved. this places the inherent desire in each student for his classmates to do worse than he does… worse they do, lower the curve, easier it is for him to get that coveted A.
from what i’ve heard from south campus friends, some people are dicks about it and others aren’t. it’s pretty much a crap shoot.</p>
<p>Hey I had a couple of questions about the philosophy at UCLA hows is the environment? How are the teachers and students? Is the work load overwhelming or manageable? How are the upper level class? </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>What do you plan on doing w/ a philosophy degree? Because I heard most go into Law afterwards?</p>
<p>At the moment I just like philosophy the subject is interesting and intrigues me Law is a possibility but not certain</p>
<p>You guys realize you bumped a 2 year old thread?</p>