No, I’m saying that science is not part of the core of the SFS. It’s not required as a basic course that all SFS students must take (at least for now- they may be changing that starting with the class of 2022). There are science courses in the SFS, there is even a science based major in the SFS (STIA). Also, as an undergrad in the SFS you can take courses in any of the other schools which means that if you’re premed, you’ll be taking bio and chem classes in the College. Most classes, especially in your first few years, are mixed between the four schools because almost everybody takes Econ, almost everybody takes languages, almost everybody takes English, etc.
@hoyabluegray Hello! Do you know of any hotels that allow an 18 year old to check in alone? My D is attending the accepted student open house later in April and there is 1 night she needs to stay in a hotel.
@SaltH20 I’m sorry, I don’t know for sure but I would just call a bunch and ask. My family always stays in the Hilton Garden Inn in Arlington and it’s pretty nice and (somewhat) cheaper but that’s really the only rec I have sorry!
Hey guys! To those of you who were denied or waitlisted, I’m sorry and I know that you guys are going to do amazing, incredible things no matter where you end up. Georgetown would have been lucky to have you but you’re going to end up somewhere great no matter what. To those of you who were accepted, welcome and congratulations! I truly hope to see you guys on the Hilltop in the fall. I did one of these AMAs for early acceptance and I figured I would do one now as well. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I promise to answer completely honestly. Hoya Saxa!
georgetown is the school that would best fit me academically, but when I visited the campus, I didn’t get very good vibes from the students or the campus. The SFS interests me so much and I love the curriculum, but I also want to be happy on campus. What’s your take on the campus? Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions.
Hi! I’m in the SFS and I was just wondering - how are the (infamous) economics classes? Would I completely fail them if I’ve never taken Econ in high school? And also on Georgetown sfs’s website, they don’t really say much about AP credits, do they count for credits in the SFS (I think a 5 in English counts for that writing freshman class? But what about the rest?). Thanks so much
Hi, I’m currently in the College and I’m considering transferring to SFS. My intended major is economics and at SFS it would be international economics. I like learning about history and foreign languages, I would be excited to learn about theology and philosophy (though have never taken classes on this before) and I’m currently living abroad so I appreciate the whole “international” aspect of the curriculum. Also, I want to work for the CIA in the future as an analyst (this could change but it’s my current goal).
However, I’m not super passionate about politics. Looking at the Facebook group most SFS people seem to be people wanting to major in IPOL, and are people who are heavily involved in debate, mock trial, MUN, and like to debate about politics in their free time. Are all SFSers like that? I am interested in learning about politics but I don’t think I’m that devoted. Also, apparently most people in the SFS hate the econ classes (sad considering econ is my intended major)? Considering this, should I stay in the College?
Perhaps staying a year in the college first and then deciding if I want to transfer would be better, but I heard it’s harder to fulfill all the SFS core requirements then, might be harder to get in, and I wouldn’t be able to take the proseminar etc. Although it could be hard to transfer now, too (I really have no idea).
@rebecca12345 I would not worry too much about the Econ classes. The vast majority of high school students do not take Econ in high school. Anyone smart enough to get into GU should be able to handle the Econ course. Plus, since Intro Econ courses are large, you will have a break-out session with a TA every week where you can discuss the current week’s topics, ask questions, etc. If you did want to get a bit of a heads’ up for SFS, (if you don’t already) you should subscribe to The Economist magazine which is a great way for someone keep up with international events.
Regarding the AP question, check out the Undergraduate Bulletin on the GU website. It goes through the AP credits in great detail.
I love it here. Georgetown students are driven, motivated, hardworking, intelligent, and caring. They’re smart and competitive but never cutthroat and the Jesuit values that underpin this school really shine through in how people treat each other. People look out for one another, study together, and genuinely care for one another. I think it’s an incredible place to live and study but ultimately it does come down to personal fit. Don’t necessarily disregard the “click” factor but also understand that not everybody automatically feels like they’ve found their one true match when looking at colleges. A lot of people at Georgetown don’t necessarily enter the school feeling obsessed with it but they grow to love it during their time here. Ultimately I think you need to trust your gut and understand that visiting a school only captures a small (biased) slice of what it would be like to attend here. If you have more specific questions I’d be happy to answer them but otherwise that’s my general overview.
Definitely take @londondad 's advice as to AP credits. Also Georgetown’s econ classes aren’t that bad. I-trade and I-finance, the two required upper level SFS econ courses are tricky but there are lots of resources to help you and everybody is really in it together. Macro and Micro, which I took this past year, are fairly straightforward. The classes are fairly large (~300 people) in each section and so you have two lectures a week and one recitation with a TA. The recitations are optional but super helpful because you can ask questions that you might not feel comfortable asking in a big lecture and the TAs will break down the concepts more thoroughly than the professor. You absolutely won’t fail the econ classes if you haven’t taken econ in high school. I only took a basic level econ class and many of my friends didn’t take econ at all. You’ll be totally fine.
While I wouldn’t say all SFS-ers are politics obsessed, the vast majority pretty much are. Not everybody is an IPOL major but since the curriculum and the school are dedicated to the concepts of foreign service and international relations, politics is usually a major theme running through many of the classes, no matter what your major is. People also complain about the econ requirement (mostly because its 4 classes and I-trade/I-finance are somewhat difficult) but there are lots of Global Business, IPEC, and IECO majors so I really wouldn’t worry about that. I don’t think the econ hate is really that big of a deal and certainly shouldn’t affect your opinion to stay in the College or transfer to the SFS, especially considering that most econ classes are a mix of all four schools. I think the Facebook group probably isn’t a good metric to gauge what the SFS will be like just because the people that you mentioned are generally the people most inclined to comment and be active in the group. There are lots of SFS kids who are much more laid back and just interested in the world and global themes and aren’t super into Model UN/ debate, mock trial, etc.
Ultimately only you can decide what is right for you. You can certainly take languages and history classes (in fact it might be easier in some cases) if you stay in the College and you will have to take theology/philosophy either way. It being Georgetown, you will certainly have experience with international curriculum no matter what school you choose to be in and so I wouldn’t really worry about it that much. Understand also that it’s not necessarily guaranteed that you will be able to transfer schools right now, simply because the SFS might be full. Often it’s easier to transfer after you get to Georgetown although if you’re interested, you should reach out to your representative and check. From your tone and what you seem to saying, I would recommend staying in the College and seeing how you like it. I think a lot of the things you like about the SFS you will experience anyways in the College and you’ll have much more flexibility and less political intenseness than in the SFS. It’s really up to you though!
@hoyabluegray Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions about Georgetown. I just got accepted to Georgetown as a sophomore transfer in the college, but I am concerned about transitioning into Georgetown as a sophomore. What would you recommend to get involved at Georgetown? Do you know of any other transfers and how they successfully integrated into the Hoya community?
And haha I’m from the Bay Area too. West San Jose I went to Lynbrook for high school
That was really informative. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer our questions. Which school are you in? If you don’t mind, could I PM you with some additional questions?
So the most important thing to help yourself integrate into the Georgetown community would be to get involved in clubs. A lot of social life at Georgetown revolves around clubs so you should get involved with a couple that you have a genuine interest in. It doesn’t have to be any of the exclusive ones like Blue and Grey or the Corp but clubs will go a long way to helping you make friends and find your social niche.
There are a lot of transfers at Georgetown and they definitely integrate well into the community! All transfers sort of live together in the same residence hall when they first get here so you’ll have others going through the same thing as you are and that makes things easier. I really wouldn’t worry. You might have a learning curve (as you would at any school you transfer to) but Hoyas are really welcoming and friendly.
I’m in the SFS and you’re more than welcome to PM me.
Sorry to bother you again. I’m gonna commit to Georgetown (yay!) but I have one last question. Do you know if it’s difficult to get into the freshman LLC’s? I’m really interested in the living well one. Kinda random but was just curious, since they require an application
Yay! Congrats on committing and welcome to the Hilltop! I wish I could help you more with the freshman LLCs but unfortunately I just don’t know all that much about them. I have friends who are in some of them (including the Living Well one) and they really like them although its definitely a trade off because you won’t get quite the same freshman experience of living in one of the four freshman dorms. People in LLCs tend to grow really close though and it’s nice to have people with similar living preferences as you, especially in the Living Well one. I don’t think they’re that competitive to get into- especially Living Well since most freshman tend to want the “classic college experience” at least to some level. I think the application is more to just gauge your level of interest and make sure that you would fit well into the community and uphold the tenets of the space. If you’re interested, then I would recommend you fill out the application. It shouldn’t be that hard (at least nowhere near as hard as your application to GU!) and you’ll at least have the option of living in the LLC.
I am doing a campus visit at end of may. I will check in with the GSP office, but are thre any other “must sees” or areas I should visit while I’m on campus? I am enrolled for this fall as a freshman.
Congrats! Welcome also to the Hilltop! I don’t know if you’ve done a campus tour or not but it’s a fairly small campus so wandering around for even an hour should give you a good overview of almost everything. Definitely check out the observatory though because there are super pretty views and it’s kind of a nice, secluded place. In terms of other places to go around the Georgetown area if you have time you should walk down around the waterfront, Wisconsin, and M street. They’re the three main arteries of the the Georgetown neighborhood and both have all kinds of shops and good restaurants and in the case of the waterfront, really pretty views of the Potomac. There’s a really good cupcake place on Thomas Jefferson St off of M St called Baked and Wired that’s super good if you feel like stopping for a snack. It’s also a nice (although decently long) walk to the monuments from the waterfront and it’s kinda always cool to just check out the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument, WWII Monument, etc. Definitely let me know if you have any specific interests and I can recommend some other places/things to do.
@rebecca12345 I was very well acquainted with Living Well at Georgetown. It’s a great community, I’m pretty sure everyone who applies is accepted, you get a lot of perks, and the people are always going to be much more chill on weekends than your average Freshman. It’s a bit of an interesting community, but I know that the members of Living Well my freshman year are all extremely close knit.