i'm drunk atm.. so thats y i'm doin this; otherwise i'm more cautious.. but heck

<p>Hey..
this is the deal: my absolute dream school is University of Chicago (Represent).. and I have no interest in going to MIT if i get in chicago (likely)... but heck, I'm curious (not drunk, i lied).. of my chances at MIT..</p>

<p>-- if this helps.. i am currently conversing with MIT's tennis coach.. (far from a commitment yet.. nor would it happen since i am thinking of dropping it..)</p>

<p>here we go, just do me: </p>

<p>GPA: 4 (UW), 4.5 (W)
Rank: 4/400
SAT II's: Math IIc: 710, Physics: 760, Bio: purrfect 800
SAT I: 1900.. I am taking it again in, lets see, 12 hours.. (~2100)
AP's: Will graduate with about 10..
AP US HIstory: 5... AP BIology: 5</p>

<p>This is basically my academic resume.. really typical, yes, but I do this all while;</p>

<p>-Captain, 1st singles (Top Varsity) of my Tennis team (lettered multiple times)... Strong regional rankings
-Varsity Track (had to quit bec/ of my commitment to tennis..)
-Co-captain of Academic Quiz bowl team
-Rep. for School's Student advisory Board...
-Vice President of National Honor Society..
-and other minor chit.. Asian Club
Interact Club
Juggernauts (academic quiz bowl)
Student Advisory Board
Waklsman Students Scholar program
Elementry tutoring
Math tutoring (I tutor science and other subjects out of my own time aswell)
Math Club
Ecology Club
Tennis (varsity; first singles)
Track & Field
Model UN
National Honor Society (and SHS, it isnt organized yet for spring)
Science Research (completed 2 physics project in my own time since I do not have the class)</p>

<p>I also work heavily:
Tennis instructor..
Library..
Religous Place..
Supervisor of Local Clubhouse (I kinda own in.. party xD)</p>

<p>I will have great essays:
Major one is about our society's shift from being a coherent one to an incoherent one.. how in today's society, relevance is irrelevant.. should be very insightful..</p>

<p>Reccomendations are effin great:
US AP History Teacher: haha, she will focus on how I was a "robber barron," and how I recieved the highest grade in class with the least effort; how I won all the Jeopardies.. and how i managed the course with other chitloads to do (wasnt bad)
Tennis coach..(eh..)
I also have an excellent recommendation from the Chair of Applied Physics and Department Head of Material Science at Rutgers University ;-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He will write about how impressed he was during my intense faculty level work-study/research (he really was...) He will talk about how my research results were the best in 10+ years and will compare me to undergrads he has worked with...</p>

<p>Awards:
Regional placement (2nd) for two consecutive years .. Science fair, Category Physics...
Distinction of National US Physics talent...
other crap to do with science (gifted and talented program ...)
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and now what i most treasure: faculty level research at rutgers (400+hrs.) NO words to describe that intense experience.. and wont attempt to..it changed my life</p>

<p>WAKE UP!!!
okay okay, finally, phew..</p>

<p>My supplement will include abstracts for 2 original research project..
-One has intense practical appoication and will change our insulations we use at home ;-)
-Other, through rutgers (my own tho), is a way to shape memory and extensive memory storage in nano-checkerboards.. yessir...</p>

<p>----------- i am very research oriented.. one of my projects - about the insulation- can hit big during this year.. lets see.... </p>

<p>thanksssss</p>

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<p>Um. You apparently think this is a good thing. I don’t, at least not to put in an application. It might be true (it was certainly true for me with some classes), but it’s not be something you want your recommenders bragging about. Because, you see, at MIT you will probably have to work for your grades, and they are unlikely to be the highest grades in the class even when you work your ass off, and MIT doesn’t want students who will come in thinking they can cruise through without effort.</p>

<p>Your SAT I is fairly low. I don’t usually say this here, because most CC people have unrealistic ideas about SATs, but in this case I think it’s true…at least 700 on each of math and verbal will put you into a safe range, and right now you don’t appear to have that. Your Math IIC also seems a little low for that particular test, but I don’t think it’s low enough to hurt you. If it’s the same as it was when I applied (which it might not be, that was 5 years ago), you will need a humanities SAT II for MIT, to go with your math and science, which you don’t appear to have.</p>

<p>Most of your clubs, in my opinion, are nothing special, and NHS in particular is just resume filler. However, there are some standouts among them. Your tennis is good, especially if you have done it for a long time - that level of achievement at a sport usually demonstrates a lot of useful things about a person’s character. The tutoring is good, assuming it’s not just something that every decent student in your district does to get into college. Your work is good - it shows responsibility and discipline.</p>

<p>Your research experience, and strong recommendation from the professor, is a HUGE plus. It’s not just research, it’s extended research, and apparently very GOOD research. From what you’ve posted here I think your research-related stuff is the best and most standout piece of your application.</p>

<p>Well, first of all, I thank you for your honest answer; but I do think that one needs to know me personally to know the type of kid I am. I am not particularly lazy; I just do not have time. I dont have the time to do homework, or to study excessively for SAT’s and SAT II’s and AP exams, or school tests in general. So I end up not trying nearly as hard as other people.. while recieving better grades (I’m not choosing to put forth my least effort possible).. I am just trying to balance a whole lot of things at the same time; you should have an idea how hard it is to maintain strong athletics and academics, which I do all while working for my paycheck and amidst family and relationship problems.. but the big big plus is, I put more attention to what I like and what I am good at- logical thinking and research. I have devoted my self to physics- and the sciences.<br>
I am really good at what I do, for which I am not going to lie. If MIT sees the person in me, not just the test scores, I think I will fit in great w/ the competitive enviornment there (I dont blame them if they reject me.. i might not even apply)..
I have done cutting edge research; had it not been for time restrictions, I wouldve gotten published in Physics Review letters or such (considerign the quality of research I’ve done) My research results were the best in a decade; and my performance was comparable to those of undergrads n such.. but i need your help here… I can still go back to my Rutgers project and continue- I am welcomed throughout the school year.. and I can carry own my research and try and make it productive.. or I can stick to my “individual” project.. which can hit really big money-wise and application wise. But its a gamble on my part..
do you suggest I put forth my effort on research since it is the best hook of my application, and the thing I most love? </p>

<p>and is it really worth it that I apply to MIT with such low SAT scores? blah</p>

<p>thanks a bunch</p>

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<p>Oh, believe me, I understand. It’s just that I guarantee you it will come off wrong if you or your recommender brag about how you did well while not trying hard. You did well, stating anywhere that you didn’t work hard is unnecessary and will just make you look bad. I get the idea that you or your recommender think that it makes you look smarter that you didn’t have to work hard in order to do well, but your stats already show that you’re smart. This isn’t the way to show that you’re smart.</p>

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<p>Yes, apply by all means. You have a lot of stuff going for you in your app (including good SAT IIs - ignore what I said about a third, I looked it up and discovered that the requirement changed), and your SAT Is might improve on the retake..</p>

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<p>And this is good. You do have to realize, though, that you will always have to jump through inconvenient hoops, be they getting good grades on classwork or schmoozing with possible sources of grant money as a physics professor. So far you’ve apparently been able to do that fine. More power to you, but eventually you won’t be able to get away with shoving them to bottom-priority status.</p>

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<p>Admissions is competitive, but campus culture isn’t really. Dedicated, but not competitive.</p>

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<p>If it’s the thing you love the most, I’d say continue with it…within reason. If, however (for example), paying for college is going to be difficult for you, you might want to consider working on the project that could make you big money.</p>

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<p>Excellent, but if anyone’s going to say that (the Physics Review bit), it should be the recommender, not you. You claiming, without substantiation (which doesn’t mean it’s not true, just that you have no way to back it up), that your own research is that awesome will make you look cocky.</p>

<p>ahh thank you very much.. and yes, my recommeder knows my potential very well…</p>

<p>thanks for the great advice..</p>

<p>anyone else on chances?</p>

<p>ty</p>