<p>lol okay i give up taxguy, i'll just say it:</p>
<p>come to bentley!</p>
<p>disclaimer: i am not responsible for any regrets you may later have about attending this school.</p>
<p>Krazyk, there is nothing to give up about. I never said that your opinions are incorrect. :)</p>
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<p>to people reading this, doesn't it come off as odd that taxguy has made a rebuttal to every post i have made about bentley? he claims to be a parent of a grad student who goes here, but with over 3,700 posts on these forums, it seems he has nothing better to do with his time. highly suspect.</p>
<p>he also argues that my opinions are not incorrect, yet every statement he has made says otherwise. he is basically saying i am right and i am wrong at the same time. our argument has become moot. i think students can see for themselves what this school is about when they come here for a visit. my goal of writing on these forums is not to intentionally skew information about bentley, which is what taxguy sets me out to be. as a matter of fact my review of bentley has listed the school's positives as well. yet, students who can do better should look elsewhere, as many opportunities outside of accounting is extremely limited at bentley.</p>
<p>i'm trying to provide accurate information in a society of information overload.</p>
<p>Krazyk notes,"my goal of writing on these forums is not to intentionally skew information about bentley, which is what taxguy sets me out to be. as a matter of fact my review of bentley has listed the school's positives as well"</p>
<p>He then says,"i'm trying to provide accurate information in a society of information overload"</p>
<p>Response: Sigh, is that what you did in your student review posting, Krazyk,which I just read? In fact, you intentionally or unintentionally slam Bentley in almost every post you make!</p>
<p>Lets see, accurate information? I am a writer. I look for biased statements.You make a LOT of unsupported statements as fact when they are merely your opinion or you leave out half of the important information when you make a statement. Let me give some examples.</p>
<p>You note that Bentley charges $600 per semester for the laptop which is $4,800 per year. This obviously implies a great rip off. What you neglect to say,which I added, is that they get to keep the laptop at the end and, more importantly, this includes maintenance and even a loaner while the machine is being worked on!</p>
<p>You note several times how bad the food is. Again, this is a statement of fact. It isn't that bad WHEN COMPARED TO A NUMBER OF OTHER SCHOOLS. Believe me, I have seen and tasted BAD college food. In fact, I have a motto for most schools, "if it's edible, it's incredible." Bentley is a LOT better than many and not as good as some.</p>
<p>You note that Bentley isn't known outside of New England. Funny, I am from Maryland and have heard of it. In fact, it has a decent reputation here. Admittedly though, it isn't as well known as a number of other schools yet.</p>
<p>You note that job prospects aren't that great, outside of acounting,by posting some of the firms that recruit there. First, this isn't a complete listing so it is misleading. Secondly, at most schools that I know, kids get their own jobs by sending resumes and going on interviews. I know of very few schools, other than Carnegie Mellon, that has a huge number of jobs for everyone so that everyone gets a good job. This is NOT the case at MOST schools that I have witnessed! Again, this is my opinion from the many people that I have met in my life.</p>
<p>In another thread, you have noted that you have a 3.9 and yet have a hard time geting internships. My cousin attended University of Florida,graduating with a 3.7 and couldn't get a job in New York for a while. This is NOT a problem solely endemic to Bentley. It occurs at many schools. Kids have to make their own way with creative letters, persistance etc. Jobs don't fall into most people's hands like mana from heaven</p>
<p>You even note that with better stats kids should attend schools like NYU. This is NOT good advice. NYU isn't for everyone. It is a very non-nurturing school. There are loads of grad students teaching classes, unlike that of Bentley. It is HUGELY expensive compared to Bentley,when you factor in all costs. Class size is generally much bigger than that of Bentley. You don't get any signficant student-faculty interaction or close relationships with faculty. Finally, it doesn't have the fabulous placement record that most people think from my experience with them. </p>
<p>In another thread you noted as to someone's chances,"you're a match for bentley. heck, they've let kids into bentley that should have never gone to college in the first place"</p>
<p>Do you think that Bentley is the only school that has made mistakes on admission?Certainly this statement implies that there are a number of incompetant folks and that admission standards are too low. Yet, the average posted SATS and GPA from Princeton review belies this. Schools make mistakes. This is true everywhere! In addition, even with top boards and scores, attitude determines altitude. If kids don't have the right study habits and attitude or get distracted by the many distractions in college, they won't do well..</p>
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<p>I am responding to you because you are making statements that are misleading or make opinion statements couched as factual. My only criticisms were not that you are wrong,but that your statements are merely your opinions. I am solely clarifying this point. I should note that some of my statements are opinions too,which I note.However, I have had a LOT more experiences checking out schools than most people. In addition, I am a lot older than you. I have had a lot more experiences seeing people get jobs, seeing what firms look for in recruting etc. This does give me an advantage in some ways.</p>
<p>lol, another defiant response by taxguy. i think his actions speak for themselves.</p>
<p>EDIT -- </p>
<p>i will give 100:1 odds that taxguy responds to this very post.</p>
<p>"i will give 100:1 odds that taxguy responds to this very post." (sorry, i don't know how to do quotes, but i'm very glad that taxguy does keep responding, or this would be a very negative thread)</p>
<p>I appreciate hearing both good and bad about schools I am considering, but for a student who is unhappy with their choice to keep telling other potential students to aim higher is unfair. There is not always that option. Even if a student can get into one of the top ranked schools, it doesnt mean they can afford it. Bentley is generous. They gave me half tuition and this will weigh a lot in my decision. A highly motivated student can do well at any school providing it offers majors they are interested in. If a student is unhappy with their choice, they should transfer, rather than badmouthing their alma mater and making others feel less proud. Word of mouth can greatly help or hinder a schools reputation. What one student doesnt like about a school could be exactly what someone else is looking for. There are so many variables that make up a perfect fit. Not everyone wants an urban setting with a lively nightlife. And it doesnt always matter where a student studied when it comes time for internships and employment. Positive attitude and lots of ambition are more important. Bentley is high on my consideration list. The modern campus is beautiful and everyone I have met has been friendly and intelligent. I only wish that reading these comments could make me feel more proud of my possible choice. Thanks for listening.</p>
<p>Chattanya, I couldn't have said it any better. It is very sad, and frankly, makes Krazyk seem a bit patheti,c in that he doesn't understand what you said. Maybe after reading your post, he will suddenly become enlighted.</p>
<p>I believe unhappy students have every right to come out and say what they're unhappy about. I do not deny slamming Bentley on certain issues. I think every high school student worth their salt will be able to make their own determinations based on what they read, good or bad. If I say Bentley makes their students pay $600 per semester for a laptop, but I don't like this idea, then I think students motivated enough will be able to do more research about the laptop program and determine its worth on their own merit. Frankly, any student interested about Bentley will get the real scoop once they come here, not on a visit, but as an enrolled student. The visit alone will only shed Bentley in a better light. A lot of Bentley's tour is sugarcoated to really "wow" the students, and no negatives are mentioned. I mean, what school is going to badmouth their own institution to prospective students? I think a lot of people come to these forums already knowing what's good about a school, but not necessarily knowing the bad.</p>
<p>When taxguy refutes every post I make (and I mean every single one), it looks like he's trying too hard. If you go all the way back to the very first rebuttal by taxguy and continue from there, it's obvious he's trying hard to sway people's opinions. You can make your own assumptions about why. As for chattanya, the option to transfer is not always there for many students, especially coming from Bentley. The school has a rigid curriculum, and many courses are not accepted by other institutions, particularly the GB courses. If you don't find my posts worthy or credible, this is a free country, don't bother to listen. As a student here, I believe I am the most credible source there is.</p>
<p>With that said, here is my final, comprehensive review of Bentley College:</p>
<p>Pros:
- Technology-oriented campus, wireless internet available most places
- Facilities are good, the new library renovation definitely stands out, trading room
- Small class sizes and no TAs
- More resources than public universities, such as free newspapers daily, free food given out at events
- Accounting job placement
- Newly built dorms are state of the art
- Will hand out lots of scholarship money to higly-qualified students</p>
<p>Cons:
- Meal plan is outrageous. This is the one thing taxguy is dead-wrong about. Plenty of other schools have cheaper plans yet provide equal or better food. Just go to review.com and do your own research. I think Bentley College is the only school where students once ran a website trying to boycott Sodexho from serving our food here. It has since disappeared due to the administration cracking down on them. What happened to freedom of speech?</p>
<p>Here is an actual quote taken straight from Bentley's newspaper about how a student feels about the meal plan:</p>
<p>"As graduation approaches and my time at Bentley draws closer to an end, often I question, "What did I get from these four years?" and "Was this really worth $140,000 dollars?" Looking back at what convinced me that Bentley was worth the money, I realize it wasn't the course material that actually sold me. It certainly wasn't the student body (predominantly male). It couldn't have been the liberal arts. It DEFININATELY wasn't the meal plan. In fact, Bentley had the lowest Newsweek ranking of any of the schools that accepted me..."
source: Vanguard (by Preston Gitlin)</p>
<ul>
<li>Very hilly campus for those who do not like walking. The newly built dorms are located at the bottom of the hill. Many, many stairs to get to class, which are located at the very top.</li>
<li>For those looking to make it to Wall Street, Bentley carries no weight to employers. Very few alumni work there.</li>
<li><p>Internship/job placement outside of accounting is very, very subpar. Here is a sample page from our current recruiting website for finance majors:</p></li>
<li><p>Management/Sales Part Time Opportunity - Lansing, MI. | Penske Truck Leasing Lansing, MI 2/19/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management/Sales Part-Time Opportunity - Erie, PA | Penske Truck Leasing
erie, PA 2/19/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management/Sales Part Time Opportunity - Rochester, NY. | Penske Truck Leasing Rochester, NY 2/19/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management/Sales Part Time Opportunity - Plymouth, MI. | Penske Truck Leasing Plymouth, MI 2/19/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management/Sales Part Time Opportunity - Brookpark, OH. | Penske Truck Leasing brookpark, OH | wickliiffe, OH | oakwood, OH 2/19/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management Internship | College Pro Painters
Seattle, WA 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management Internship | College Pro Painters
All 50 States 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management Internship | College Pro Painters
Boise, ID 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management Internship | College Pro Painters
Boise, ID | Tacoma, WA 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Management Internship | College Pro Painters
Boise, ID | Tacoma, WA | Denver, CO 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Financial Representative Intern - Midtown Manhattan | Northwestern Mutual - Russo Financial Group New York, NY 2/14/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Business Development Intern - Spring/Summer 2008 | Ameriprise Financial Services, Inc. Winchester, MA
Posted by Bentley College 2/13/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Investment Banking Analyst Internship- Summer 2008 | Mirus Capital Advisors Burlington, MA
Posted by Bentley College 2/13/08 </p>
<ul>
<li>Management/Sales Part Time Opportunity - Buffalo, NY. | Penske Truck Leasing Buffalo, NY 2/13/08 </li>
</ul></li>
<li><p>Business Intelligence Summer Internship Program - Summer 2008 | Travelers Hartford, CT
Posted by Bentley College 2/12/08 </p></li>
<li><p>Summer Intern - Bilingual Spanish / English | RJ Reynolds
New York City Metro Area, NY 2/01/08 </p></li>
</ul>
<h2>source: erecruiting</h2>
<p>There are a couple good positions to apply for, but as you can see, the majority of them are not worth looking at for serious candidates. Northwesterm Mutual is quite a misleading company, as its interns are essentially salespeople selling financial services to customers. Not a real internship unless you like to do sales. The investment banking internship listed there is for one position, and after speaking with their recruiting coordinator, they already have over 400 applications for that one spot, mine being one of them under review.</p>
<p>Overall, Bentley is a decent school. I keep saying this yet taxguy thinks I'm out here to slam everything about it, unbelievable huh? It's not great, but hopefully the new president can make a push to keep improving the college.</p>
<p>I've been reading krazyk and taxguy posts for quite awhile now. I must say, however, that your last post krazyk is what finally irritated me enough to submit a post of my own. </p>
<p>First of all anyone reading your last post must admit that your "pros" far outweigh your "cons", i.e, wireless campus, new library and trading room, small class sizes and no TA's ! (most schools wish they could claim this), etc. So now your cons, the "meal plan" ? How many college campuses have you ever been on for any length of time that you actually had to use their dining facilities? As far as the cost, well I have a D at a local college who is paying more for her meal plan than Bentley charges. I'm sure if you did some research you would find that this cost is not out of line with other schools in the area. And as far as "hilly"?? come on....</p>
<p>As far as placement, I haven't validated your "sample" of open positions. But I do have first hand knowledge of some current Bentley students that had a number of internship and mentorship opportunities, as well as job offers from some excellent firms.</p>
<p>I have encountered a disgruntled student similar to you in another CC college thread. Because you obviously made the wrong choice in schools for YOU, you now feel you must share your misery and sway prospective students to make yourself feel better.</p>
<p>Put your energy into something constructive. Like a transfer to that ivy that will get you to Wall Street? You must have known before attending Bentley what it's reputation was and its placement stats for careers that you are interested in. </p>
<p>I really hoped that taxguy's last post in response to chatttanya would have had an impact on you: "Maybe after reading your post, he will suddenly become enlighted". Ah, I guess that is not the case.</p>
<p>The pros part of Krazyk's post was actually quite helpful and I appreciate that he said Bentley was a decent school with a new president. Maybe she'll upgrade the meal plan and everyone will be happy!</p>
<p>Many years ago, I remember a philosophy professor who constantly noted that, "the stomach is superior to the mind." This seems particularly true with Krazyk.</p>
<p>I don't really like coming on forums where I have very few posts to add my thoughts on old threads but I feel like I should. I kinda enjoyed reading the little feud between Krazyk and taxguy, to be honest. But I feel like I need to explain why I am considering Bentley.</p>
<p>Firstly, I am not looking for a job on Wall Street. That type of life style is just not for me. I-bankers and analysts typically work 80+ hours a week and have absolutely no life outside of their work.(analyst on wall street) The money is amazing, yes, but the sacrifices they make to their bodies and their life far outweigh the payout at years end. If I did WANT to work on Wall Street I would try and get in at an Ivy League school. Only the Ivy League students land jobs on Wall Street, except one college. That is NYU. NYU is not the greatest university nor will it ever be. The reason students land jobs on Wall Street is strictly because of its location. If Bentley were located where NYU is, the school would attract better teachers, better students, and so on...making it have the same reputation as NYU. You could put any school where NYU is located and with the right staff it would be at the same level of prestige. </p>
<p>Another thing to note is that is that NYU is a large school. And for the amount of students that land jobs on Wall Street vs. the size of the student body is nothing spectacular. I have read on other review sites that there are a decent amount of students here(Bentley) who have an "inferiority complex" because they weren't accepted to any Ivy Leagues. Well, boo-<strong><em>!ng-hoo! I don't want to go to an Ivy League school so don't *</em></strong> on everyone else's school of choice.</p>
<p>One thing I hate about Ivy League schools is that everything is based off of branding. Half the classes are taught by TA's. Most professors focus on their research and could give a ***** about any of their students. People land jobs from Ivies because it is a name brand. It has been labeled "the best of the best". Yea, they have good libraries and research facilities and yada yada. I won't argue that the students their probably receive an amazing education and are some of the smartest kids from around the world. But think about this statistic; half of the applicants who were rejected from Ivy League schools have perfect scores on their SAT's. What made them not good enough to get in? Maybe they had low GPA's or something but I'll tell you those half that don't get in do just as amazing things as those who got accepted.</p>
<p>Anyways, back to my story. In high school I barely did a thing. I skipped at least once a week my senior year and part of my junior year. College was never a thought of my future. Now, here I am at community with a 3.57 applying to a good school with a good reputation in New England. If I wanted to I could talk to a college advisor and have one of my grades waived. I tried community right out of high school and left 3/4 of the way through the semester in which I had all A's. I ended up replacing the two grades except one. So I feel my true GPA is a 3.8. I had 3 semesters in a row with a 4.0 and my last one was a 3.8. I could probably get into a "better" school, yes, but I don't like what the other schools offer. I want to major in accounting and land a job at one of the Big 4. Bentley offers a campus, typically with guaranteed housing all 4 years, small class sizes, close to home/boston yet far away enough to be away from home, great reputation in accounting. To be honest, I could go to like Umass Amherst and also land a job at one of the Big 4 firms but the classes are larger. They don't have good facilities. The student body isn't as motivated but they don't have an "inferiority complex". It's all about motivation. Also, one thing to consider is undergraduate degrees isn't as important as graduate degrees. If I do well at Bentley, or even a state school, I could go to Harvard or MIT and so on for grad school. From there you could land a job on Wall Street. But as I said before those aren't my career goals. Coming from community college with small class sizes and active discussions I am more comfortable with the small class and small school size. I will perform better in this kind of environment.</p>
<p>As far as Bentley "sugar coating" their tour, ALL schools do this. If you went on a tour and the guide said, "so what first? the good or the bad?", people would be dumbfounded. I feel bad for people who don't do their research thoroughly. I've read about the good and the bad of Bentley from everywhere I could find. As taxguy said sometimes the bad is good for some and sometimes the good is bad for others. </p>
<p>For me the good is; small classes, guaranteed housing, good reputation in accounting, 87% of students accept job offers before the end of their senior year, 5 year program for masters in accounting, great facilities for finance/accounting majors, lots of events on campus, close to boston, lots of clubs/events to meet people. </p>
<p>the bad; lack of diversity in a ton of areas- socioeconomic levels, race, location of where students come from. (i've gone to public school and community college. i've had friendships with people of all races and economic levels). the "inferiority complex" I've read so much about. a lot of students are materialistic and $$ is their only goal in life. haha, guess the main parts I dislike are about the student body. But I know to take everything I read with a grain of salt because I have read in other places that the student body is made up of athletes, nerds, greeks, stoners, and everything in between. </p>
<p>Sorry for the long post. I can't write about everything cause my mind is jumbled. Feel free to reply and bash my post or touch up on some things or clear them up for me.</p>