I'm torn on where to go to college...

As a parent, I would not be thrilled if my child wanted to pick a school based on football, Greek life and Southern culture.

What is your dream career?
Where in the country do you want to work?

If I was you I would seriously look at outcomes.

Which schools have the highest freshman retention rate?
Which schools have the highest 4 year graduation rate?
Which schools have the highest earnings?

I would keep your eye on the prize and do a lot of research. Your parents are making a large investment in your future!

@ClarinetDad16 Thabk you for your feedback. My parents said they’d be happy with any of the schools on my list because they believe I will get a good education at any of them, especially if that’s what I make of it. I don’t know exactly what I want to do, just business. Both my dad and grandfather, who have high-up corporate positions and interview and hire people all the time, say they could care less where people went to school, as long as they got a degree. It’s so much more about how you communicate and your work ethic and how you build off basic business skills than having a degree from an Ivy or a highly ranked school. I’m not looking for something that only one school has specifically. I have looked at retention and graduation rates, as well as earnings. As for where in the country I want to work, probably somewhere down South. The great thing about a lot of SEC schools is the national or at least regional networking they provide. I am confident I will get everything I need and more at all of these schools, which is why it’s come down to examining more superficial factors to choose.

I’m from the Northwest too so I can relate to wanting to get out of the rain! Also the Pacific Northwest culture is unique in its own way, and if you have the chance to try something new, I say go for it! To me your posts are screaming Bama, which I had the opportunity to visit last year when my son was checking out colleges. I think Bama and Tuscaloosa have exactly what you are looking for, and the people and weather are great! I can’t comment too much about the other schools since I have not visited them, but I agree that Florida generally has it’s own vibe that is not especially “southern,” except for in a few places. Also, as a parent, I would have been comfortable with my son living in Tuscaloosa more than some of the bigger cities, but that’s just me being protective I suppose. But still, Tuscaloosa and UA generally are both lovely and relatively safe. Good luck! :slight_smile:

UF on a different level than your other schools:

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Tenn&s=all&pg=3&fv=134130+100751+159391+221759&cp=1&sl=159391+100751+221759+134130

UF has a great retention rate too.

Florida is different than “southern”, though certain sections of northern Florida are southern-ish (ironic).

I am totally okay with a Florida culture rather than a Southern culture, as long as it’s different than the PNW. I have yet to visit, I will if I get in, but I hear lots of great things. I am also planning on going back and visiting Bama, USC, (I remember those two the least from my trip) and seeing Ole Miss for the first time. (My parents and I are in the process of planning).

Ole Miss might a be good tuition compromise, it has the lowest oos tuition. 20K vs. 12K instate at UW vs. 25K at UA vs. 30K at the others.

@Gator88NE Thanks got it, would have expected UF OOS yield to be substantially higher. Surprised at that number given that it is one of the best value for money schools out there, even for OOS kids. 43k total/year for OOS at UF, which is ranked quite high academically is quite good value for money. Plus Florida weather…

Update: I got into the University of Florida, , and am going to tour LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina, and Florida over spring break. I visited Arizona over mid-winter and loved it, I could totally see myself there, but I don’t know how I feel about it not being as different, not having southern culture.

Southeast rain may be much warmer, but since LA, AL, MS, and FL are 4 out of the 5 rainiest states, you should still bring your rainboots.

Frankly, reading the OP’s posts, it’s rather clear that money isn’t an issue at all with this family. That’s cool. For some, paying $200k for ANY school is no big deal. I have a sister who could write those checks many, many times and never miss the money.

@kate28 Come back after your revisit and give us an update.

I’d forget about Tennessee…it seems like it would be fine for grad school, but it lacks the cohesion and beauty you’re probably looking for. LSU seems to have financial problems looming, so I’d drop that.

Never been to S. Carolina, but I’ve heard good things.

Yes, UF has bigger name than Bama and Mississippi, but the actual tangible advantages that gives you, if any, can’t be huge.

U of Mississippi is farther north than Bama and Fla, and has a noticibly cooler climate. Mississippi is also significantly smaller, more compact, and a lot cozier than the huge, sprawling Bama. I liked both when I saw them, but something about the underdog Mississippi captured my heart .

UF is way more academically rigorous - It is hardly an MIT but sends hordes into law and med schools for example. Just as you cant compare a Harvard to a UF, you just cant compare UF to a Bama/OleMiss/Tennessee - they are not in the same league. UF is an academically respectable public university close to the UCs, UNC, UVA, UIUC mold. Not so with the others. SC is better than the others on your list but is still way behind UF in all academic stats. Just compare graduation rates for example.

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=univ+of+south+carolina&s=all&fv=134130+100751+176017+221759+218663&cp=1&sl=100751+221759+176017+134130

Your best bet is a college that combines all the aspects you want but does not compromise on the quality of your education. Don’t underestimate the value of a brand when it comes to getting jobs. You will find that a UF degree is more valuable than the others on your list.

If money is no object, I vote for UF for its academic quality. If the genteel “southern vibe” is really crucial for you, then USC or Bama.

The U of A campus is beautiful and Tucson is a nice city, but watch what you wish for with respect to rain. It is REALLY dry. And hot!

Update-I visited LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina, and Florida over break. I loved all of them, but LSU and Florida are now out. I know UF is ranked more highly, but honestly, it didn’t get a feeling of “I can totally see myself here” like I did at Ole Miss, Bama, and SC. I don’t think the difference in prestige is worth me regretting not going to a school that checks more of my boxes. LSU we just didn’t get enough time at for me to make a decision on. Tennessee is also no longer in the running, and neither is Arizona. I can’t fit in a visit to UTK, and I loved UArizona but the vibe just isn’t different enough for me. As for the remaining three, I’m stuck.

Ole Miss- It was SO southern and so preppy. I loved the architecture, the feel walking around, the Greek areas, the housing plans, the colors, and of course, the Rebel pride. It was clear that like it was said on the tour, "You graduate from the university, but you never graduate from Ole Miss. Oxford was the cutest little town, although it wasn’t immediately off campus, which I didn’t love. Also, it was kind of small. After going to a small Catholic school for four years, I want to be sure my university feels big. I could absolutely see myself here, but I am worried about the size and how isolated UM is. There’s NOTHING around it, and I’m scared it will feel too claustrophobic. There are two kids from my school there as freshmen this year, and a girl from my cheer team will be attending there this fall. We’re friends and I have nothing against her, but I’m not sure how I feel about seeing two girls I know. I’m aware it’s not a small university, but especially because of Greek life, I may want to go to some school where I don’t know anyone, so it’s completely new. However, size/isolation and knowing people are the only downsides. I LOVE everything else about Ole Miss. I know I said before money isn’t an issue, and it still isn’t, but the price tag here is less than the other two, and I got a few thousand a year in merit scholarships, that I’m proud of.

Alabama- THIS CAMPUS IS JAW-DROPPING. Everything is huge and impressive. I fell in love with the quad, loved seeing the river on the outskirts of campus, and I love Tuscaloosa. There are so many restaurants around, a movie theater, and shopping close enough by. I didn’t feel isolated at all. The strip right off campus is so cute, and I loved the parts of T-Town right off campus as well. The Bama spirit was VERY evident, and Bryant-Denny Stadium has to be the second most amazing building I have ever seen (Sleeping Beauty Castle being the first). The sheer magnitude of the Greek life here drew me in, and I love how big everything is. Nobody from my school is going there this year, and I’ve been proudly rooting for the Tide since visiting last year. I could definitely see myself here as well, and I don’t see how anything could possibly compare to Alabama football. On the other hand, on parts of campus, towards the gorgeous rec center and also by Lakeside housing, I got worried that maybe this huge campus is too big. I also don’t love how so many people tend to live off campus, or on the other side by Lakeside. If I were to choose another school, I’m afraid I would regret not choosing Bama because of how in love I have been with their sports and spirit for the past year, especially since they win so many sports. (I know winning isn’t everything, but after coming from a back to back state champs in football high school where football is THE sport, that’s the culture I’m used to. Also, Bama is southern, but more cowboy boots than pearls, (I know Greek life is more preppy and I love the idea of t-shirts and Nike shorts to class, I’m just saying). That vibe isn’t quite as appealing as the ones at Ole Miss and UofSC, but I could totally get into the culture here at UA.

UofSC- Carolina is pretty different from the other two, but I kind of love how different it is. It’s in the city but there’s still a distinct campus feel, and much of the housing is next to each other. I ADORE the Greek village here, how the houses are gorgeous and in their own little neighborhood. That was a huge plus for me, as was the Strom. I loved the buildings here, the landscaping, and the beautiful trees and flowers. The surrounding area is a big sell for me as well. I’m not normally a city girl, much more of a suburbs fan, but I love Columbia. It’s so pretty, there is so much to do, and yet it doesn’t feel overwhelmingly huge like Seattle sometimes does here at home. The culture here, especially with Greek life was more preppy and southern, and I could actually see myself living in South Carolina. (Ole Miss and Bama would be four year experiences, so thank goodness for their huge alumni networks). The South Carolina weather is wonderful (I don’t mind humidity, it’s better than the nonstop rain, so that’s good), and I love how close Savannah and Charleston and Myrtle Beach are. I love the stadium as well. I don’t know of anyone from my school that has gone there in at least 6 years, so it would be a completely new experience. I also like how although Greek life is big, it’s slightly toned down in comparison to UM and UA. The only downside is missing out on Bama Spirit, since out of the 3, it seemed to be the least spirited. I LOVE everything else about UofSC, and truth be told, I know some of my family wants me to go there. (I do recognize this is my decision, I’m just putting it out there).

These three are in a neck to neck tie, and I don’t know how to choose, so any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

Put on a t-shirt from each and wear it around for a couple hours. One if them will make you feel happier and prouder. That’s the one to attend.

Where did u end up?