<p>75% sounds really low. Yale’s is over 90% and they don’t screen applicants (and have similar grade inflation).</p>
<p>and…princeton, its a tough one for me cuz i kno ill be doing something math/sci related and i kno both schools have strong programs in that area…also i live in va, so cali is kinda far away lol, not sure which to choose and am going to both admit weekends, any info would be appreciated</p>
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<p>Yale screens. A really ballsy guy at my high school (who was fed up with all the admissions crap and stress) started verbally attacking the regional admissions officer who came to speak at our school. He went on a major rant criticizing Yale about a bunch of things. He basically started saying how ridiculous it is to flaunt a 96% med school placement rate, when they just prevent people from applying who they think won’t get in to med school. The admissions guy then tried to defend the practice of screening (not very well). Nobody got into Yale that year… lol.</p>
<p>Any school boasting a 90% or similar acceptance rate to med schools screens or does something else that’s similar to fudge the data. There’s no reason why similar caliber schools, with similar caliber students, and similar caliber grade inflation, would do significantly worse in med school placement.</p>
<p>Yeah, that makes sense.</p>
<p>It seems odd that a school with the #1 ranking for biology (graduate) would have lower acceptance rates.</p>
<p>What if you are a bio/chem major and your choices are: Stanford, Brown, Penn, Cornell, Tufts, Dartmouth, Amherst, Wesleyan, Uof R (free ride-merit), Vanderbilt (free ride-merit)?</p>
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<p>This is just false. I’m premed at Yale and there is no screening process that “prevents” anyone from applying to med school. Anyone who wants to go to med school can apply from Yale. Essentially all premed students apply through career services because they receive advising and a recommendation letter; these students (which again, is essentially 100% of premeds) are admitted into medical schools at a rate of 96%. It’s both a valid and incredible figure. </p>
<p>I suspect Stanford’s relatively low success is due to the nature of the competition for admission into the UC Med Schools.</p>
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<p>this. Need I say more?</p>
<p>He implies that the recommendation letter is automatic.</p>
<p>I honestly doubt the recommendation letter is automatic. This type of “career services” information has been debated ad nauseam on CC about another college, Duke and the conclusion was that career services is a proxy for screening. I mean, let’s be serious. Even if, for one minute, we assumed that Yale does not screen…how else could Yale obtain a 96% acceptance rate to med school or something like that? It just doesn’t make sense unless they are all applying to the worst med schools (and even then this is iffy) Seeing as there are Berkeley students with 3.6’s and good MCATs who applied to many med schools and didn’t get in (there’s data on this floating on CC I’ll try to find it) makes it almost impossible that you can have a 96% undoctored acceptance rate to med school. </p>
<p>**And about the competitive UC med schools, I’m sure students serious about med schools know to apply to at least some safer ones, so I don’t think the difference in the difficulty of med schools that students are applying to is to blame.</p>
<p>While I agree that Yale is doing something fishy, it may be that since Yale has a high concentration of fuzzy majors, their GPAs are better. Whereas at a school like Stanford, where a huge portion of the student body majors in engineering/the sciences (which are not grade-inflated), will probably have lower GPAs.</p>
<p>Just throwing that out there.</p>
<p>Average GPA’s:
Stanford in 2005 - 3.55 (most recent data available, has probably inflated further)
Yale in 2008 - 3.51</p>
<p>^Do you know the standard deviation for those averages? Like, are most grades clustered around there or is it really varied?</p>
<p>This gives some data for Yale: [Yale</a> Daily News - Honors cutoffs stay steady](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/25168]Yale”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/25168)</p>
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<p>All premed applicants at Yale interview with Yale med students. Yale med students write up reports and give them to the premed advisors. Premed advisors write the reports for ALL students applying to medical school. These reports/recommendations can be positive or negative, but they are written for each and every student who is applying for medical school from Yale University. For these students, an average of 94-96% are admitted into at least one medical school (and very many receive their first choice). This is because the advising is superior; premed advisors ensure that students apply to schools they can actually get into. And honestly, Yale students are at a level where they really can get into at least one medical school in the U.S.</p>
<p>I repeat, Yale has no screening process that prevents its students from applying to medical school! I do know what I’m talking about, Mosmordre, thank you.</p>
<p>Stanford’s name is earned by its great gradauate and professional schools. Its undergraduate school is overrated. Its SAT scores are on par with Dartmouth and Duke and below HYPM. It is not an undergraduate focused school.</p>
<p>It won’t surprise me if Stanford’s medical school admission rate is lower than Yale. I think that the reason may be MCAT. If you use the SAT as a proxy for the MCAT, Yale students would have higher MCAT scores and hence better medical school admission rate. (Maybe somebody can dig out the applicants’ MCAT data for the two schools and compare them.)</p>
<p>Who cares about MCAT? Stanford medical school’s professors are definitely more distinguished than Yale’s. Even though Yale has a much bigger Med school, Stanford has more faculty members elected to the prestigious Institute of medicine. And Stanford has won more NIH pioneer awards (about 10) than any other university (YALE HAS WON 0)</p>
<p>Definitely Stanford.</p>
<p>To professor 101, </p>
<p>here is a link for MCAT and GPA: [US</a> Medical Schools: MCAT Scores and GPA](<a href=“http://www.mcattestscores.com/usmedicalschoolsmcatscoresGPA.html]US”>US Medical Schools: MCAT Scores and GPA).</p>
<p>Stanford med school accepts students with higher GPA, probably higher MCAT than Yale. </p>
<p>Stanford University
School of Medicine
Office of Admissions
251 Campus Dr., Suite 309
Stanford, CA 94305-5404
(650) 723-6861, FAX (650) 725-4599
AMCAS – Private
Deadline: Nov.1
Average GPA: 3.7
Average MCAT: VR-10, PS-12, BS-12</p>
<p>Yale University
School of Medicine
Office of Admissions
367 Cedar Street
New Haven, CT 06510
E-mail: <a href=“mailto:medical.admissions@yale.edu”>medical.admissions@yale.edu</a><a href=“203”>/email</a> 785-2643, FAX (203) 785-3234
AMCAS – Private
Deadline: Oct.15
Average GPA: 3.6
Average MCAT: 11</p>
<p>Again, I don’t think MCAT is a big deal. I used to have a damn high GRE general score and a GRE subject score (full score). You can improve your score by intensive study. I think GPA is much more important but unfortunately GPAs from different schools are hardly comparable.</p>
<p>I think faculty strength is most important. If you want to become the best, you want to learn from the best. Which school has better faculty, Stanford or Yale? Of course Stanford!!</p>