<p>I think around 20%, but I might be off by 5%. :)</p>
<p>In the past several years, many kids I know applied EA to MIT and RD to Harvard, so MIT’s loss could be Harvard’s gain.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the size of the cross applicant/cross admit pools change with a certain number of Princeton and Harvard early admits now removed from the regular round scatter gunning.</p>
<p>Clearly the cross admit pools will be smaller. I think last year Harvard’s cross admit pools were, roughly, 500 with Yale, 400 with Princeton, 300 with Stanford and 200 with MIT. In the not so distant past, with different admissions strategies in place, Harvard’s greatest overlap was with Stanford.</p>
<p>Do you have a source for that cross-admit data, cottonmather? HYPS typically hold those numbers close to the vest.</p>
<p>The gossip from both Harvard and Yale Adcom is that last year had a higher than normal crossadmit numbers between Harvard and Yale, and many showed up for the Bulldogs day first and then travelled to Cambridge for the Vistas.</p>
<p>Harvard Parent is correct. The Harvard-Yale and Harvard-Princeton cross admit pools were up last year, while the Harvard-Stanford cross admit pool declined a bit. One can only speculate as to the reasons. This year it will be very interesting to see how the changes at Harvard and Princeton affect things. </p>
<p>Regardless, total early application numbers are growing relentlessly, as even second-rate guidance counselors have finally discovered that applying early SOMEWHERE … ANYWHERE is the key to increasing your odds of admission to a good school.</p>
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<p>The two share the same pool of applicants more than anyone else perhaps.</p>
<p>H and Y are certainly not sharing the early pool … The SCEA restrictions are specifically designed to give schools exclusive negotiating rights with their own early admits for 90 days.</p>
<p>^My interpretation of what lake said is not that H & Y actually share the same EA applicants, but rather that the pool of students applying to either Y or H EA have a difficult time choosing between the two because both offer much of what they are looking for.</p>
<p>^Yes and I think P has much more in common with Stanford and MIT than most people admit. Princeton’s already strong engineering program is growing in leaps and bounds and they have top ranked physics and math programs also.</p>
<p>ento-how is that related to why H and Y are taking so long to report their SCEA numbers this year?
What answers to my original question do you have?</p>
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My guess? The Y SCEA pool is down to its pre-2008 levels (about 4000, or 20+%) due to the revival of the H and P early programs. There is currently an internal debate going on at Y about whether or not to maintain the same count of SCEA admits or the same level of selectivity whereby admits will drop and have to be filled from the RD pool. Until that debate is resolved and can be communicated in a press release numbers will not be released.</p>
<p>As for H, I cannot say for sure, but my impression is that the schools often seem to give a coordinated response in these situations.</p>
<p>Makes good sense, D.
That would mean are debating internally exactly what we are debating.</p>
<p>They may be reviewing the apps very carefully, to see exactly what they have. Are there enough Likely Letter and other coveted candidates in the SCEA pools?</p>
<p>Actually only Princeton released its number “officially”. We got Stanford’s and MIT’s numbers from NYT. If Harvard only received about 4000-6000 applications, rather than a number over 11,000 like Virginia did, they may never release it till December 15, so is Yale if the its number is about 4000. It is difficult to keep its admit rate as low as last year’s.</p>
<p>My guess is that H and Y considered their EA numbers disappointing, hence the delayed public release. It is not surprising if many applicants stayed away because one can argue that it makes perfect sense to land a second tier school in the EA around as a safety school and then go for the moon. The huge EA numbers for UChicago and Virginia suggest that this may be the current trend.</p>
<p>Columbia ED = 3,088 (-5.68%)<br>
Cornell ED = 3,609 (+ 3.74%)</p>
<p>Updated NYT Class of 2016 Early Applications: [The</a> Early Line on Early Applications for the Class of 2016 - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/early-admission-2011-2/]The”>The Early Line on Early Applications for the Class of 2016 - The New York Times)</p>
<p>Yale SCEA apps dropped about 1,000 to 4,310.</p>
<p>is this a published information?</p>
<p>[Number</a> of early applicants dropsCross Campus | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/nov/18/number-early-applicants-drops/?cross-campus]Number”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/nov/18/number-early-applicants-drops/?cross-campus)</p>
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In other words either they will cut admits in proportion to reduced applications…or they won’t. The debate has not been settled.</p>
<p>Is there anything to be made of the late Friday afternoon timing of this release?</p>
<p>^^ “Yale received 4,310 early applications for the Class of 2016 this year, marking an 18 percent decrease from 5,257 early applications for the Class of 2015, Dean of Admissions Jeffrey Brenzel told the News on Friday.”</p>