Impact of Harvard and Princeton Early Program?

<p>That means, statistically speaking, the admittance rate for Yale’s 2016 SCEA round will be between 15% and 17%! Of course, this is oversimplifying the matter, but at least our applications won’t be lost in the morass of RD!</p>

<p>Concerto, you are correct and I stand–slightly–corrected. Last year’s SCEA admission rate was 14.48% and even if the more conservative 650/15% figure holds that means the rate will be increasing.</p>

<p>I suppose this is welcome news to the aspiring Yalie posters to this forum.</p>

<p>Just in case people are interested in the recent Yale early-program admission statistics, here they are:</p>

<p>Year Apps Admits Rate Notes
2000 1,097 413 37.65% ED
2001 1,262 461 36.53% ED
2002 2,115 549 25.96% ED/on-line admissions start
2003 2,611 557 21.33% ED
2004 4,046 670 16.56% Switch to SCEA
2005 3,933 704 17.90% SCEA
2006 4,084 724 17.73% SCEA
2007 3,594 709 19.73% SCEA
2008 4,888 885 18.11% SCEA, no early @HP
2009 5,557 742 13.35% SCEA, no early @HP
2010 5,262 730 13.87% SCEA, no early @HP
2011 5,257 761 14.48% SCEA, no early @HP
2012 4,310 ??? ??? SCEA, early @HP reinstated</p>

<p>I would still expect to see a minimum of 750 admitted from the high-yield early pool.</p>

<p>Looks like it will be a roll of the dice to get in. Literally, about 1/6 chance.</p>

<p>Good luck everyone!</p>

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<p>Doubtful. Why would trends among high school students change just this year? High school student decisions aren’t rational, so your explanation makes no sense.</p>

<p>If you looked at the data, the other EA schools didn’t get much of an increase. Georgetown got a 1% increase and MIT got a 5% decrease. Chicago got an increase due to better marketing and a jump into the top 5 in US News, and Virginia got a lot of applications because it’s a public school.</p>

<p>This year’s trend makes perfect sense. Last year, Stanford and Yale had to fight among each other for applications. This year, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, and Harvard have to fight amongst each other for applications. It therefore makes sense that Stanford and Yale’s admissions numbers would drop, and that Harvard and Princeton’s numbers wouldn’t be as high as some people would expect.</p>

<p>Both Yale and Princeton have a 20% increase compared with the numbers for class of 2011. So, will Harvard have the same percent increase to have (1+ 20%) of 4008=4809, or about 5000 applications?</p>

<p>Bear in mind that for the Class of 2011, Princeton had binding early decision, whereas now they have non-binding SCEA. In that year, Harvard still had open early action.</p>

<p>Regardless, Harvard may not have the lowest early admit rate. The honor could go to Stanford or MIT, if Harvard received about 5000 early applications.</p>

<p>Harvard would have announced it earlier, if it had reached its anticipated number, I would assume.</p>

<p>I’m not sure Harvard has ever had the lowest early admit rate, even when it had “open” early admissions. </p>

<p>Nor am I aware that in its first year with SCEA Harvard had an “anticipated” number of early applicants. What would such an “anticipated” number have been based on?</p>

<p>One can argue it either way, I suppose: </p>

<p>(1) Harvard’s “prestige” and “desirability” should get it a high number of SCEA applications, or </p>

<p>(2) Harvard’s low overall admit rate in recent years should discourage strategic applications by potential applicants looking to maximize their chances of admission to a top elite and not wanting to “waste” their one shot on the most unlikely parlay.</p>

<p>When Harvard had 6.2% of admit rate last year, it did not wait for a second to shout it out. I am not sure what was the “calculated” number, but if it had 15,000 applications, I am sure Harvard would tell you on November 2.</p>

<p>I did not mean that Harvard has ever had the lowest early admit rate so far, I just meant that it probably would not have it this time.</p>

<p>HYP all extended the SCEA due date to November 7 due to the terrible storms and lingering power outages in the Northeast, so nothing could have been reported on November 2.</p>

<p>Moreover, last year, when the overall admit rate was a low 6.2%, Harvard was not the first, but in fact the last to report its numbers. This is almost always the case, for various logistical reasons.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/3/31/percent-class-students-year/[/url]”>http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/3/31/percent-class-students-year/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>[Early</a> applications decline | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/nov/18/early-applications-decline/]Early”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2011/nov/18/early-applications-decline/)</p>

<p>Harvard COULD still have the lowest early acceptance rate.
If it didn’t get as many applications as it maybe “targeted”, it’d accept a very low percentage of these early applicants, and then wait for RD to accept the majority of its class. This would hold if cottonmather’s #2 proves to be most prevalent.</p>

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<p>I thought that the whole SECA thing is to get higher yield. So what is the point to accept less, and it is very dangerous to do so when other HYPSM have SCEA now.</p>

<p>cottonmather: I was teasing you, don’t take it too seriously. I hope Harvard has what it wants, so you can be pleased too. :)</p>

<p>According to my math Yale will admit between 15% and 17% of early applicants. I’m pretty sure I remember them claiming that applying early doesn’t increase your chances…what’s the deal?</p>

<p>Applying early ANYWHERE increases the odds of admission. If this was not demonstrably so, of course, nobody would ever apply early.</p>

<p>@kangaroo23 Without getting into the argument of whether applying early action helps you or not, admission offices claim that early pools are usually stronger than regular ones, hence the increased acceptance rate.</p>

<p>You need to know how many admitted are athletes and legacies to get a true picture of the percentage for regular admits.</p>

<p>Yale has less athletic recruits than Harvard. I am not sure about the exact count but I believe that it is around 120 each year.</p>