<p>cornell at its finest</p>
<p>yea, i agree with dangdang. you go to cornell. what do you know about transferring from a CC > UC..first of all, not much</p>
<p>second of all, you didn't even read her entire question, so what was the point of your post?</p>
<p>dont discourage socalgal with your false statements. california community college transfers do just as well as UC berkeley students who started out as freshmans. don't say 'im not being mean' and then go and insult her abilities by acting as if her 4.0 at community college takes zero efffort. you really ought to focus on your own forum and leave your bad advice out of ours.</p>
<p>i was not being discouraging, i was more being realistic, NOT FOR California schools. I was saying in gernal, CC kids have to show a lot more than a student at a top university to transfer. They are just more of a liability. The last thing a university needs is failing students, which lowers their retention rate.</p>
<p>thanks ilovecalifornia for sticking sum insight into bball87.</p>
<p>"don't say 'im not being mean' and then go and insult her abilities by acting as if her 4.0 at community college takes zero efffort."</p>
<p>i think that's just as worse as saying "no offense, but...". i hate it when people say that. its like saying, no offense, but what I'm about to say is offensive. give me a break.</p>
<p>socal, with all due respect, but seriously, how much effort is it to get As at a CC? I can understand some students are motivated, some wanted to save money, but the students in the gen population simply aren't motivated and most aren't academically up to par with those students attending an elite university. Therefore, I conclude it is much easier to get an A at a CC than it is at an elite university. Anyone who disagrees with my analysis is full of ****</p>
<p>excuse my grammer</p>
<p>"I was saying in gernal, CC kids have to show a lot more than a student at a top university to transfer. They are just more of a liability. The last thing a university needs is failing students, which lowers their retention rate."</p>
<p>Not true. A failing student? You're acting like I'm stupid because I'm going to a CC. If you think students who go from high school to top universities are bound to have success and perform at a university level, then please rationalize for me how you think someone for a community college is going to "fail". Aww, those poor, stupid CC students. They don't know anything.</p>
<p>And bball87, please stop refering to me as a "liability".</p>
<p>well, i am sorry, from my high school, 99.5 percent went to 4 year universities, we only know what we see and experience. The .5 percent went to CCs, and honestly were the dumbest kids in the school. They were completely unmotivated and didn't take advantage of any opportunities given to them. I was a peer tutor for some of these students and they showed no desire to improve their performance.</p>
<p>i just wanted to input that historically transfer students from community colleges across the board perform as well or better then students who continue at four year institutions. it's a misconception that CC students are in any way a 'liability' on the school. </p>
<p>however, i will concede that community college students need to prove a lot more then students at more selective schools by the very nature of the disparity in admission-selective schools are selective for a reason. but every CC student knows this. it's not new knowledge. the only difference is that this in no way attests to inherent intelligence...only performance. if those students can harness that intelligence, and perform, then they still are at a disadvantage-but that's just how it is.</p>
<p>just accept the unspoken truth. there's no need for this debate.curves are good, yes. at CC's, curves are good. at more selective institutions, curves are bad. a 95 being the mean warrants that a 92 is a C (generalization, its been a while since i've taken stats). curves work differently when you're working with a different type of people-and this speaks of the performance of those students. so be it. that's also life.</p>
<p>Well, if only .5% of the students in your high school went to a CC, there you're in the wrong forum. If California, its very typical that smart, intelligent students take the CC route, whether it be to say money, stay close to home, or to just take advantage of a second shot at a top university.</p>
<p>And if you think I'm a mediocre person, take a look at my initial thread. I'm assuming I'm more involved with my school and community than you ever will be.</p>
<p>bball, March Madness is on. Run off now.</p>
<p>don't let anyone put you or your acomplishments down socalgal. You've done the best you could with the resources available to you. I'm almost certain that you'll make Haas.</p>
<p>i am not putting u down, i have never said that cc kids are anyway less of ppl, what i am saying, on average, they are less accomplished as ppl, less intelligent on average, that isn't a generalization, a fact</p>
<p>omg bball..i still don't get why your here. last time i checked, cornell wasn't in the state of california and you obviously don't have a clue about how our system works..</p>
<p>jsut go give advice about things that you know about, this obviously isn't one of those areas.</p>
<p>Getting A's in Chem, O-Chem, Biology, and Physics is hard, even at a Community College, i'll admit there are some easy classes that are for the most part GE's but these classes are easy at a University and or a CC.</p>
<p>In addition, with 99% of your class going to 4 year institutions what state is this. In California, a lot of people at community colleges go here to get into better schools, they had the chance to go to a state school or even a top UC. In addition many go to CC just because it's cheaper, in all seriousness, i may have lost out on the experience if i went to UCI straight out of highschool. But the fact is that I only paid 3,000 for school and worked to get some experience for accounting. </p>
<p>I know many people who got Davis, or Irvine, but rejected by LA and Berkeley, and go to CC just to get into these schools. So tell me your 99% might just be happy going to a state school wherever you are, but we want to go to top tiers school for the most part.</p>