<p>It is pretty amazing seeing so many students (10-15 or so per class) on the waiting lists for this course (Intermediate Accounting I). There are a total of seven classes for 140 seats only in Spring compared to 180 seats for this semester. Many students won't be able to take it before I-core. As a result, they will have to wait 1.5 years between Financial Accounting and this course. The situation is just as bad for A325, A310, and A324. I think that it is extremely poor planning on the part of KSB. I think that it may not be a bad idea to take I-core during the 4th semester if a student brings enough AP credits. I am under the assumption that majority of the students would take I-core during their 5th semester. In this case, I-core becomes the bottleneck. Would someone please comment on this?</p>
<p>That really sucks, Ace. I think because the economy is so bad that way more people are majoring in accounting now than even just two years ago. Here is the Spring 2011 schedule. There were seven sections of 45 each and they had 29 openings after classes began, compared to a huge waiting list only two years later, Spring 2013.
[Schedule</a> of Classes Bulletin for the Bloomington campus for Spring 2012](<a href=“http://wwwreg.indiana.edu/ScheduleOfClasses/prl/soc4122fac.html#BUS]Schedule”>http://wwwreg.indiana.edu/ScheduleOfClasses/prl/soc4122fac.html#BUS)</p>
<p>I would get on a waiting list and maybe another section will open up. Accounting has been advertised as almost a guaranteed job, but there are many signs that that is changing, including at IUB, probably in part because there are now so many accounting majors. I know maxellis posted here that he took A311, A312, A325, and A329 all in the fall and spring of his sophomore year. Of course he had a lot of credits, but I know your son does too. </p>
<p>USCO shows 454 accounting majors for class of 2013 and 562 for class of 2014. So Kelley obviously needs to add more sections of upper level accounting classes. </p>
<p>The Fall 2009 MSA class at Kelley was 37 students; Fall 2012 entering class is 76. Probably ninety percent of these students are listed on linkedin; many had their 150 credits last May, and the overwhelming majority are Kelley accounting ugrads; the number of international students fell from 37 percent to 26 percent, probably to make more room for Kelley ugrads.</p>
<p>Maybe your son can do A311 in first summer session. It is not uncommon to take A311 Icore semester, but that is a tough load.</p>
<p>Actually, the 29 openings for A311 was just last year for Spring 2012, which makes the spring 2013 demand for A311 even crazier.</p>
<p>bthomp, could all those openings from last Spring be from people who dropped the class after it started? </p>
<p>The upper level accounting courses were not nearly this full at this point during registration last Spring (registering for this Fall). I registered for A311 and A329 as a freshman with zero AP credits. </p>
<p>Also, doesn’t this create a problem with A311, A312, and A424 being a three-course sequence? There are probably juniors who can’t get into A311, which means they won’t be able to graduate in 4 years. It would also make it impossible for that junior to get into the MSA program as A424 is a pre-requisite for that. 3/2 MBA students would have to take A311, A325, A329, and C301 in their junior Spring.</p>
<p>Hkem, I think you are right.
[Course</a> and Section Enrollment Statistics](<a href=“Indiana University Bloomington”>Indiana University Bloomington)</p>
<p>And that actually makes it much more possible, maybe even likely that Ace’s son can get into one of the sections. </p>
<p>Ace, your son needs to immediately register in the 8:00 am section, 15688. Notice from the link to last Spring’s section and enrollment statistics that last spring’s eight am section (15083, with Crawley) had 12 openings by the end of the first week of classes-- by the last Friday of the first week of classes students could still enroll. That means that all sections at the start of the week had wait lists, just like spring 2013 this year, but by the time all the musical chairs of a few people dropping each section, with others transferring into more desirable time slots, too, thereby creating openings in their sections, that the eight am section – the least desirable one by far during registration-- had openings after its own wait list dissolved. That section probably started the week with a wait list but had openings by the end of the week. Notice that only 12 seniors wound up in the eight am section, while two better time sections had more than 30 seniors each. Ace, if your son registers for the eight am class, he may move up very fast and get in by the end of the first week of classes. Notice, too, that it is the shortest wait list now. That’s because nobody wants that eight am section, but they will settle for it rather than not take A311.</p>
<p>Thanks again for pointing that out, Hkem.</p>
<p>Bthomp1,</p>
<p>Thanks for the note. They were all gone by 1:00PM yesterday per SIS. I will reply when I get home tonight. I really could not understand why only 20 seats per class. The waiting lists grew to 15-25 now per class. There are problems for other courses also. I will ask my sone to take to his advisor.</p>
<p>That 20 per class is very weird. An hour ago the eight am section was 16, and it is 15 now. </p>
<p>I think he should be able to get in the eight am section at least. I would just sign up for it now and then do something else if advised to by an adviser. You won’t be risking but a few bucks at the most.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>I have figured out the 20 seats thing. Honors adviser said that there will end up being between 40-50 available seats in each section by the end of registration. If you’re in the top 20 on the waitlist, you’re pretty much guaranteed to get in. </p>
<p>I have no idea why they do it this way, but they do it for other upper level classes as well. </p>
<p>Also, as of right now, two sections have available seats and a waitlist because people don’t use the drop if enrolled button.</p>
<p>My son took A311 with Tiller and Tiller had the sophomores raise their hands to identify themselves one day in class and a few raised their hands. I wondered at the time how they could have got into one of Tiller’s classes, as he is by far the most desired prof and my son had 100+ credits at the time. It must be, like you say Hkem; they must open up twenty or so spots all at once. Otherwise, you would expect the sophomores to be in only one or two sections, when they are pretty much equally spread out over the seven sections. Another unexplainable quirk, I guess. But good news for Ace.</p>
<p>HKEM and Bthomp1,</p>
<p>Thanks. DS2 got in both A311 (Erickson) and A325(Jensen). Probably will only take one in Spring.</p>