<p>bluebayou: Key phrase is "expected." That means it is optional, not a requirement. If it said "required" then, yes, we would honor that rule. So, no, I'm not teaching my child to break rules. </p>
<p>sybbie: That raises an interesting question in my mind regarding public school counselors. Application status technically is a private matter between child and university. I'm not sure counselor should release such information without the family's permission.</p>
<p>For the benefit of the new members, we seem to have this discussion every year. Allow me to summarize the normal flow.</p>
<p>Several archetypes emerge in the course of the discussion:</p>
<p>Straight Shooters feel that everyone should meticulously follow both the letter and the spirit of the agreements as set forth by the colleges. </p>
<p>Rationalizers happily bend the rules to their advantage if they can come up with their own interpretation of the ED agreement, however bizarre, that allows them to do so. </p>
<p>Outlaws try to game the rules to their own advantage regardless of the effect their actions may have on others. They believe the odds of getting caught are very low and tend to like to brag about how they are beating the system.</p>
<p>The Oblivious either do not bother to read the agreement or else misunderstand what it says. Sometimes a Rationalizer will pretend to be Oblivious if that can get them around a provision that they want to ignore.</p>
<p>Trolls pretend to be Outlaws in order to bait the Straight Shooters.</p>
<p>While it may be possible to move one of The Oblivious into one of the other groups, it seems to be very difficult to convince one of the other types to switch allegiance.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/576700-loopholes-early-decision.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/576700-loopholes-early-decision.html</a> for a fairly recent thread along these lines. Search on "early decision cheating" or "early decision blacklist" for a bunch of others.</p>
<p>Nutonabike, it is a requirement even if it is worded politely. You risk the ED acceptance being revoked if Scripps finds out you still have pending applications some weeks/months from now. </p>
<p>I would expect that your school guidance office is not going to send out a midyear report for your child, knowing that she has been accepted ED.</p>
<p>My son's school counselor did inform one of his regular decision colleges that he had been accepted ED elsewhere; while he had sent a postcard withdrawing his application (in fact, the school guidance office mails these postcards out to make sure students are following through in withdrawing RD apps), it had been lost in the mail.</p>
<p>bassdad:</p>
<p>don't forget the lawyers: "It depends on what you mean is 'is'...." :D</p>
<p>Lawyers appear to be a subspecies of Rationalizers who attempt to find and exploit loopholes in the wording of the agreement, even when it is perfectly obvious what was meant.</p>
<p>So do I have this correct you can apply to both an Early Action college, a rolling admissions college and a binding Early Decision college; if accepted to the Early Decision college you need to withdraw your application to the Early action and rolling colleges. You can accept the Early action, or rolling college only if you are not admitted to the ED college.</p>
<p>Now if you apply to a SCEA, can you also apply to a binding ED college?</p>
<p>If you've been admitted to a college binding ED, you write to all the other schools (snail mail, usually) to which you have submitted applications, saying:</p>
<p>"Please withdraw my application for freshman admission. I have been admitted to another college Early Decision."</p>
<p>SCEA stands for Single Choice Early Action. The intent is that if you apply SCEA, you will not apply EA or ED elsewhere. That is where the "Single" comes in, as in you only get to apply to a single program that will give you an early answer. You may apply to as many other RD and rolling admissions schools as you like. If accepted by the SCEA school, there is no obligation to attend.</p>
<p>EA has no such restrictions. You can apply EA to as many colleges as you like, and also have one outstanding ED and as many outstanding RD and rolling admissions applications as you want elsewhere.</p>
<p>With ED, you may also make as many EA, RD and rolling admissions applications in the works as you like. However, you are supposed to withdraw all of the others if accepted by the ED school unless you can show that their financial aid package is inadequate.</p>
<p>Also, there are a couple of EA colleges (Boston College & Georgetown, others?) that will not allow you to appy ED anywhere else, but you can apply to other EA colleges.</p>
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<p>Perhaps that's only an "expectation"? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Well, I'm happy to report daughter received her ED acceptance today. In the acceptance packet I'll just say they used language considerably stronger than "expectation" regarding withdrawing other RD applications. I'll advise her to comply. Move us into the "straight shooter" column.</p>
<p>Congrats to your D! Scripps is a <em>wonderful</em> school!</p>
<p>Congrats to your daughter on her ED acceptance!</p>
<p>Interesting, so now we have yet another flavor of EA that prohibits concurrent ED. I hadn't heard of that version. I guess the real answer to 1 down's question is to read the fine print on the applications very carefully for every school at which ED, EA or SCEA is being contemplated, because there may be subtle differences from the norm from one school to the next.</p>
<p>I am not sure what we are supposed to expect, or expected to suppose. I do think that, once someone has a binding acceptance that they are not contesting for financial reasons, withdrawing other applications is the courteous thing to do. GC's and admissions reps have enough to keep them busy without the extra work generated by gamers or the merely curious. I understand Roger's concerns about the schools having all the power in this scenario, which is why I think that those who want to preserve their options should think long and hard before applying ED.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Nutonabike's D. I'll bet it feels good to have the whole thing done this early.</p>
<p>Thank you question_quest, jrpar and BassDad. D* was climbing walls yesterday, now she's so thrilled she's on the ceiling. You're right, it's wonderful to have this done early.</p>
<p>Congrats to your D. I can understand how thestress of the process (as a parent or applicant) can throw the most reasonable and rational people for loop). Now she can have a shredding party and toss the confetti for New Years because there are no more applications to be done:D:</p>
<p>A couple of my schools have not yet responded to my emails (it's been a week), what would be the best course of action with the holidays so soon? I don't want to have my acceptance rescinded for something like this...</p>
<p>fhg, I wouldn't worry about it. If you sent an email (keep a copy) you aren't going to be rescinded. Most admissions offices are on break now.</p>
<p>So I should be fine since I have a time-stamped email to prove that I tried to withdraw them?</p>
<p>Am I required to state my ED university? Or can I just say "I was accepted at an early decision university?"</p>
<p>No, you are not required to state where you have been accepted ED.</p>