<p>as your username says “samesies”
i completely agree. i would hate a deferral</p>
<p>yeah, I will definitely take the reject over the defer, at least that way I don’t need to worry about it anymore.</p>
<p>hahaha. good one</p>
<p>Sorry to put a damper on things, but I figured you guys would prefer having all the available facts to living in ignorant bliss. :)</p>
<p>Hang in there–things will definitely work out for every one of you one way or another.</p>
<p>So, by sending that to alumni, is Dr. Gutmann’s e-mail meant to remind alumni parents that legacy admits will be competitive too?</p>
<p>So if you DON’T write your race, then it wouldn’t count against you?? Wouldn’t they know anyways O.o</p>
<p>Yeah they probably would.
For example, Wang Lee is not a mexican.</p>
<p>Honestly, I wouldn’t really mind a deferral/rejection. I mean, yes I love Penn but I’m also starting to really love the other schools on my list and something other than an acceptance would mean that I could keep my options open. I guess I’m not buying into this whole “Penn or Bust” mindset. That being said, don’t get me wrong; I will probably scream with joy if I get in (and I’m normally a pretty reserved guy).</p>
<p>They would know, but if I’m unlisted they don’t have to put me under Asian when listing what their demographics are.</p>
<p>It won’t help, it won’t hurt, it might still hurt–eh, it doesn’t matter. To avoid a huge AA argument, I didn’t put my race on principle alone. I don’t have to after all :)</p>
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It turns out that it wasn’t just an email sent to alumni, but was also posted as a news release on Penn’s web site:</p>
<p>[A</a> Message From President Amy Gutmann | Penn News](<a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/message-president-amy-gutmann]A”>http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/message-president-amy-gutmann)</p>
<p>So I guess the answer to your question is no, the statement wasn’t specifically intended to be a reality check for alumni parents of legacy applicants. :)</p>
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<p>I bolded the sentences that seem too generic and “pep-talk-esque” to be of any major significance. “Academic quality” is subjective, so I wouldn’t worry too much as to whether the “academic quality of the early decision pool is the most impressive ever” unless she is talking about objective standardized test scores, which we all know are only a small part of the application, if the admission process is as holistic as they claim it to be. I don’t know…to me, this message just comes across as another one of those pep talks exaggerating even the slightest “increase” in whatever area they want to emphasize.</p>
<p>Of course, this is what I want to believe.</p>
<p>This is what I also choose to believe. ^</p>