@evanm137 on this thread and other threads, there are many students who desire a particular school.
Understanding how merit works (including ACT/SAT and GPA), OOS student admission and limited scholarships.
I agree with the comments on this thread - you are grasping for a school that is not financially feasible from what you have said.
If you have strong aptitude in chemistry, an UG school that has a good program and that works for your budget.
If your family’s budget for school is what you state ($30K/yr) you should be able to find some good programs.
What do your parents think? Did you work hard at classes in HS? Will you work hard on school work in college? If you want to achieve at least the same GPA that you had in HS, you will have to work very hard (put the time and energy into being a great student).
Many students do get distracted at all the freedom and choices students have in college. It takes maturity in identifying what is an appropriate school and applying themselves to doing well - like @cptofthehouse sons - who determined what would work with their budget.
When a student and family have debt hanging over them because of a school choice, it puts a lot of strain and distraction from studies IMHO. As a parent, I would not sign for the student loans either when there are good choices available within budget.
@SOSConcern I have no idea why people randomly started commenting on this, but yeah I have some updated info.
I have been accepted into Mizzou which is a complete and total backup. I have been accepted to Iowa which is a backup, but I still would like it there. I did end up getting into Indiana University!! They gave me 4 thousand per year. It is not enough to go there, which is understandable, because my stats are average. However I ended up getting over Indiana due to the fact that I have already been accepted into another school that is much cheaper, and is just as good if not a better school than IU. It is University of Minnesota! I was accepted there as well. Some of the people earlier in the forum that said I would get no money from IU were indeed wrong. I got some, just not enough as predicted. I still love IU, just I cant go there. I am also still waiting to hear back from UIUC, and if I get in there it will be roughly 30K. Minnesota is slightly more than that at 32K. Iowa is slightly more at 34K. My parents said we could work with any of those prices. I also applied to UW Madison, and yesterday I was told that I was waitlisted, and I feel honored because Madison is NOT an easy school to get into. Getting waitlisted as out of state is a pretty good accomplishment for Madison. In the end I am going to end up somewhere great. Iowa and Minnesota are two for-sure options right now. I have been told I have a great chances at getting into UIUC, and that could potentially be another option if I get in. And then I still need to hear a final decision from UW Madison. IU and Mizzou are 99% out.
Sounds like you have some good choices. Wonderful that your parents have a fairly generous college fund for you.
I grew up in WI, about 50 miles from Madison. Niece (in-state) is graduating from Univ of WI-Madison in May.
Maybe a first/second visit to schools on your list? Perhaps list the important characteristics and attributes of the various schools to give yourself a visual beside your gut feeling on each school. Wherever you choose get the best fit for you and your major/career path.
I can understand your passions. My two kids are at the school they desired - which was a fit for $$ and scholarships and their majors. They are working hard, but it does help to like where you are planted. We were fortunate to have good choices in-state. Glad you have put IU behind you, since it was not affordable.
Yes, I am quite happy too! Both Iowa and Minnesota have their pros and cons. And then UIUC and Madison could be thrown into the mix. I am going to need to do a lot of thinking
@SOSConcern Do you know anything about being waitlisted at Madison? Is it okay? Are most eventually accepted? Or is it bad?
BTW, your decision was postponed, you were not wait listed from UW-Madison.
What is your FAFSA EFC? How much will your parents pay each year?
@Madison85 Is postponing hard to get accepted from? And I don’t know about my Parents financial stuff. Honestly right now I’m more concerned about getting into Madison than worrying about paying for it
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I think you need to FIRST find out if your parents will pay for UWisc. If you find out that they won’t, then WHAT GOOD will an acceptance do you???
This is like ordering an expensive car from a dealership, hoping it will come in, but having NO IDEA of how you’re going to pay for it.
were you deferred or waitlisted to UW? If you were WL’d, then completely move on. If you were deferred, then have your parents run the NPC and then find out if they’ll pay. If they won’t, then MOVE ON.
With any school, it depends how many are accepted that actually do decide to come. I would suspect that if you were a WI resident, your chances would be better on the waitlist. Perhaps you can check with the school and with the chemistry dept. Would UW-Madison be an affordable option?
@evanm137 have you thought about attending one school for the first couple of years and then going to the upper division courses at a school where you believe the curriculum would be good for you?
The OP has not been waitlisted, it’s too early for that. The OP has been postponed. It’s RA and sure admits and sure declines are notified starting in early November as the apps come in. Those in between are postponed to after the app deadline, Feb. 1 I believe, and a decision is made from that pool. Anyone who isn’t a sure admit has less of a chance obviously but many are postponed.
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That’s what I thought…many kids get deferred confused with WL
The student needs to sit down with his parents and run the NPC on Wisc’s website. Their response to the amount that they’ll have to pay may make acceptance concerns a moot point.
Yes, sorry it is not a waitlist. It is called a postpone. And my parents said they would need to think about it if I got in. My mom said that she is annoyed with the fact that they postponed me, and they even postponed one of my friends with a 31 on the ACT. She still needs to think. And I still need to hear back from them too. If Madison doesn’t work I will most likely go to university of Minnesota or UIUC if I get in. (both affordable options)
You cannot fault Madison which is under heavy pressure from WI taxpayers to consider in-state applicants first. So why is your mom annoyed at Madison for not deciding on you?
I can understand emotions do run.
Still consider all the options to do well for all four years both money wise and with the courses. Look at the first two year courses at UIUC, U MN and U WI to see if that academic env’t is good for you (I imagine sizable lecture situations). Perhaps you can get just as good of an education (or perhaps even better) at CC or local state option. I also understand wanting to have the ‘full’ college experience at one place - it is what I had and my children are having.
@mom2collegekids Never knew that before… always thought GPA >>>> SAT Scores. Are SAT and ACT Scores that highly prized in most public flagships? Not includingthe top-notch ones like UC Berkeley or UVA since they’re flooded with 99%-percentile scores
@jarjarbinks
Test scores are always more valuable to a university.
There is a HUGE pool of students that have high GPAs…largely because of massive grade inflation out there.
There is a smaller pool of students that have high test scores.
There is even a smaller pool of students that have high test scores and strong GPAs. <= these are the ones that typically get the merit
Rankings are influenced by a school’s reported middle quartile test scores. You may have noticed that people often comment on that because it gives a better idea of the academic strength of the school.