Inheritance

@blossom Are you from Philly? I am and I remember how in awe I was when I went to the original Barnes museum which was a house not far from where my parents lived.

Not from Philly but I remember the old Barnes very well. You opened a linen closet and there was a Picasso hanging over some ratty towels!!! Got to say though- the new museum (post lawsuits) is gorgeous!!!

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I haven’t been to the new museum but the original was quite amazing. I really enjoyed my visits there.

Just from experience. If you have a relative with dementia of some sort then gather those sentimental objects or those with great value and put them somewhere safe. My grandmother just started to “give away” things to neighbors or care givers. I refrain from saying stolen. My mom never wanted to “take things away from her” which I totally understand but way too many things of great value disappeared and it wasn’t realized until too late.

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I second this. My mom “lost” a number of pieces of jewelry, some very sentimental.

I would also suggest looking in every nook and cranny when sorting through possessions before giving things away. I found a diamond studded watch stuffed in a sock in a lingerie drawer. My grandparents hid cash around the house (including taped to the top of the inside of the oven).

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ASK NOW! Where is the “hidden stash” for lack of a better term. Maybe there isn’t one. Or maybe it’s all over in places you’d never know. My aunt (long ago) said it’s in the oatmeal box in a cabinet (all removed now of course since she moved) but so easy to have been thrown out if something had happened to her. Don’t make your relatives have to open EVERY envelope to find stuff. At least put a treasure map in with the will. Maybe you don’t need a treasure map to your stuff. But the older (than us) generation did. Just saying.

My dad made my sister and I (different towns) write down our own stashes and exchange that info just with at least each other. At first we were hesitant but honestly it’s the best safeguard you have. If you have anything of value around your house or property and it’s not written down somewhere or very apparent as to value then it may never be discovered.

Just adding that dementia isn’t the only cause. Your loved one (might be you) could get a stroke, be hospital bound, have a car accident etc. It’s hard when these things happen and you never expect anything awful. At some point write down your own stuff and tell someone where to find the info even if it’s only a note in the safety deposit box as to where to go find the info.

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We asked
.the response we got was “look in everything because I hid things”. At that point
the parent had moved and also couldn’t remember anything. Asking didn’t help.

Luckily I was the only child of my mother. I found little treasures in very odd places. Gold chains in an envelope. A Diamond pendant in a coin purse. We looked in everything
.and there were 44 moving boxes of “everything” to look through.

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True! My dad hid cash in books, or so he told me. He had many books. Due to a sudden stroke before affairs were put in order, who knows what may or may not have been given away with the piles of books.

Yes
.where I volunteer, we found $500 in a donated book. Have no idea who made the donation. It’s a charitable place so the money went to the charity. Clearly, the family had no idea money was in the book.

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My dad would get angry when he forgot things. As he aged, this happened more and more and just made him increasingly unpleasant to be around.

High functioning people hide dementia better by adopting coping mechanisms. When they can’t compensate enough it all comes crashing down and seems to have happened suddenly when it’s really been a process, often covering a very extended period of time.

My dad had lots of things he thought were “treasures.” My Sis had her friend who is a professional at appraising valuable items for through their house She sadly said there was nothing of value there, surprising no one.

Mom does have a fairly large safety deposit box stuffed full of jewelry that she’s never worn and honestly doesn’t care about. Some of those items were expensive to acquire and gifts from my dad’s wealthy clients.

We have talked about distributing the items but most of us aren’t very interested. It will eventually be done.

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My grandfather had tons of books and I was very certain that he’d hidden cash there. He ended up in the hospital unable to speak and my poor parents spent MONTHS at his home taking care of him and everything else. We begged my parents to come let us help especially after he had died. They were SO tired (can’t blame them) that they wanted the all scenario done. But I think with some new eyes and fresh bodies it would have been worth thousands.

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When I travel I hide some jewelry etc., I text photos of hiding places to one another of my kids.

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Well
just remember to take the family jewels out of the hiding places. A former colleague hid all of her and her husband’s jewelry in her boots. Forgot she did that
and donated the boots to Goodwill.

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Ha, I bought my husband a fairly valuable old map of Alaska when we hadn’t been married long. We didn’t have money to frame it at the time, so we stuck it behind a cheap print in a frame. When we needed to jettison stuff before moving to Maine, we took that print to Goodwill. That was the end of the map. I hope somebody got a pleasant surprise!

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My patient told me she hid all her jewelry before going into the hospital. She didn’t share where it was hidden. I reported all this to her son, after her death. He found her stash on top shelf in garage, with the Christmas ornaments. He was grateful for my hint, or he wouldn’t have looked thru everything.

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There is plenty of “will” and inheritance wisdom on this page, but having dealt with the loss of 3 parents and a childless aunt (pseudo mother) in the past 2 years, I would suggest the following:

  • Throw away the crap you’ve collected over a lifetime. It’s hard enough dealing with value, having to donate your moth-eaten letterman sweater from the 50s is just extra work for your heirs.
  • Give items of value to those you want to have them
 so you can share the experience.
  • Don’t use your will as a final opportunity for revenge, use it as a final expression of caring and forgiveness.
  • Simplify your holdings into a few accounts, don’t leave bank or investment accounts open with small holdings “just in case”
 you won’t need it.
  • Empower one person to make decisions, not a committee.
  • Explain your wishes while you can. Many
MANY people deal with cognitive issues in the end. Don’t wait until it’s too late to document your real intentions, for medical directives as well. It’s really hard to feel good about signing a DNR if the person never truly agreed.
  • For brothers and sisters without heirs, get them to plan. They don’t have the same sense of urgency or responsibility on their way out and often create an administrative nightmare for their living relatives.
  • Be strategic with taxes. This isn’t only for the rich. For example, if you have very high healthcare bills, increase your tax-deferred withdrawals so they are offset by high deductions. Empty the 401(k) and leave post-tax investments alone.

Last thing. If things are happening quickly near the end
focus on the people, not the money. There is very little you can do in the short term to impact finances. Plan early, and spend the time you have left focused on each other, not paperwork.

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My brothers and I discussed our final wishes in terms of medical intervention, but one bachelor brother never weighed in. He had two strokes within a couple weeks just about this time four years ago, and I ended up having to make the final decision about medical intervention after the second stroke. It was horrible, awful, gut wrenching, etc. I don’t regret the decisions I made that day, but it was a nightmare to make them in those very frenzied minutes. Adults need to have difficult conversations with their loved ones before things happen.

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That last part about focus on each other not paperwork really got me.
My dad tried his best to wrap up a million loose ends before he left us but what we really wanted was quality time with him I spent half my time saying “quit worrying–we’ll figure it out. Leave it to us. It’ll be okay no matter what. It might not be perfect but we’ll manage. Now about that
”(just kidding sort of).

DO get questions answered however. Where’s the insurance files? Make sure you can get in the safety deposit box. Where’s the key? Where’s the money you’ve hid? Car title? What subscriptions do you have (that might not be readily apparent). W

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This is exactly what happened to my parents’ neighbor. Even went one step further when the floozie died and her daughter got it. Kids of original parents did not get one thing from the house, and they lived very near and had to watch their home place go through that. Grrrr