Interesting look at Reservist Pay

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<p>Study: Most Reservists Earn More in Combat</p>

<p>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: January 26, 2006
Filed at 5:50 a.m. ET</p>

<p>WASHINGTON (AP) -- Most military reservists who left their civilian jobs to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan made more money there than in their regular jobs, according to a study that contradicts the notion that citizen soldiers lose money when they go to war.</p>

<p>The study, by RAND's National Defense Research Institute, found that 72 percent of the troops surveyed made more while on war duty in 2002 or 2003 than they did in their civilian jobs in 2001. More than half made at least $10,000 more.</p>

<p>On average, the reservists made $850 more per month while on duty than in their civilian jobs, the report found.</p>

<p>It went on to say, however, that there is still a sizable number -- 28 percent -- of the reservists who lost money, including some who saw their earnings drop by more than 10 percent.</p>

<p>Higher salaries, combat pay supplements, family separation allowances and tax-free earnings all have combined to boost troops' pay on the front lines. But RAND senior economist Jacob Alex Klerman said researchers are still working to understand why this study differs so dramatically from earlier surveys and anecdotal reports about families struggling to get by when a primary wage-earner went to war.</p>

<p>Klerman said the study uses earnings data supplied by the Social Security Administration, and therefore is likely to be more accurate than earlier surveys, which often relied on information volunteered by soldiers. Also, he said, those surveys did not reflect the fact that reservists serving in combat zones do not pay federal income taxes on their pay.</p>

<p>''You should not interpret this as saying no one has losses,'' said Klerman. ''We need to think carefully about what is the appropriate response for those people with losses.''</p>

<p>Still, he said, since earnings losses are less of a problem than earlier surveys suggested, legislative efforts to supplement reservists' pay may not be as necessary or require as much funding as previously thought.</p>

<p>He said the study does not imply that reserve pay is adequate. Those troops, he emphasized, are still getting shot at, sleeping in tents and spending months away from their families.</p>

<p>Noting that some reservists are in school, and therefore have no jobs or a very low-paying jobs, Klerman said the study also broke out earnings for those who made at least $10,000 or more in their civilian jobs. Even in those cases, he said, reservists made an average of nearly $7,000 more while on duty.</p>

<p>Overall, the study looked at 212,500 reservists and compared their civilian pay in 2001 to the amount they made while on duty in either 2002 or 2003.</p>

<p>To get a good idea of the impact on a full year's pay, it also provided statistics for the 51,200 reservists who were at their regular jobs for most if not all of 2001, and then on duty for more than 271 days in either 2002 or 2003. For those reservists the study found:</p>

<p>--The average civilian pay was $39,300, compared with $56,400 while on combat duty.</p>

<p>--83 percent made more on duty than at their civilian jobs.</p>

<p>--66 percent saw their pay increase more than $10,000 while on duty.</p>

<p>--7 percent lost more than $10,000 while on duty.</p>

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<p>Although I haven't looked at the study mentioned this poses some interested ideas. The fact that reservists loose money while on active duty has been a notion that has been around for a long time. I myself even thought it was true. This seems to knock that theory down a little bit. I would wonder how many of those 7% who lost more are doctor's or lawyers. Just an interesting article that I thought I would share with the group.</p>

<p>Dang. I meant to comment on this a while ago but well, you know.... I was kinda busy stirring a witches brew & eating my young. Anyhow, that was interesting to see something on this. We've got a secretary who's husband is Guard and serving. We thought she would have a hard time with him gone but she tells us that he makes about the 10,000 more. I had to laugh alittle because she told us this after we'd given her a raise. LOL Smart smart girl! But she seems so lonely some days its scary. Probably not worth the extra funds to her.</p>

<p>Another aspect I haven't seen is the impact on reserve/guard communities. There are pockets where a whole bunch are in the guard and local services, i.e. police, fire, stores/factories that have suffered when units are called up. </p>

<p>What I think would be the most difficult for all involved, especially the families, is the general uncertainty - not only the general fear of crazy bombers, but not knowing when they will come home again. Of course, regular soldier families have this problem too. It is a tough life for families left behind - usually relatively young and with kids.</p>

<p>There is an interesting documentary series "Off to War" - I think Discovery Times produced it. It follows an Arkansas guard unit as they prepare for and then deploy to Iraq. It also follows the impact on the families left behind.
From my experience, the Guard members who are self employed (including doctors) seem to be the ones with the most to lose financially. Interesting article kp2001.</p>

<p>Weski: "but not knowing when they will come home again."</p>

<p>Luckily this part has been somewhat taken care of. With a few exceptions the Army is on one year orders, the navy/marine corps is on 6mos orders, and the air force is on 4mos orders. </p>

<p>Depending on certain situations there is usually some work-up time before the actual deployment and some post-deployment training afterwards. In the beginning of the war it was much less predictable.</p>

<p>Ann: "From my experience, the Guard members who are self employed (including doctors) seem to be the ones with the most to lose financially"</p>

<p>I think I'd agree with you here. I don't think it is necessarily the loss of income that is the main problem, but if you are self-employed then you will probably lose your business and then when you do get back there is nothing left for you.</p>