Interesting Naviance College Match Data

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Chicago ✅
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Have you ever wondered which other schools are popular among UChicago applicants?

Naviance after analyzing several thousand applications puts the top 5 as follows

  1. Northwestern
  2. Columbia
  3. Penn
  4. Cornell
  5. Brown

Interestingly for Northwestern the top 5 are as follows

  1. Michigan
  2. Penn
  3. WashU
  4. Cornell
  5. UChicago

For Columbia the top 5 are

  1. Penn
  2. NYU
  3. Cornell
  4. Harvard
  5. Brown

For Penn the top 5 are

  1. Cornell
  2. Columbia
  3. Harvard
  4. Brown
  5. Princeton

For Cornell the top 5 are

  1. Penn
  2. Columbia
  3. Brown
  4. NYU
  5. Michigan

And Finally for Brown

  1. Columbia
  2. Penn
  3. Yale
  4. Harvard
  5. Cornell

Chicago kids really don’t go for the HYPSM schools as much as its peers. This may explain Chicago high yield and also why they are going for ED2. ED2 may get them students from the HYPSM pool that they are not attracting now.

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Interesting - do you have the data for Yale, Harvard and Princeton as well?

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^The top 4 would be HYPS. The fifth is probably Columbia/MIT.

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Interesting Yale only makes it on Brown’s top 5. Do you have average number of applications submitted as well ?

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You have to search by individual school on Naviance, which makes it a little harder, but so far, Chicago has shown up on only one other top 5 list. Reed college at #4!!! It didn’t crack the top five for any of the large schools in Illinois like UIUC, DePaul, Loyola, UIC etc nor at any of the top 20 Usnews ranked schools nor for any of the large publics like Berkeley, Michigan, Texas etc as far as I can tell. This tells me many Chicago applicants are really applying to all kinds of schools and don’t form a big enough pool at any of those schools to make the top five at any.

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Of roughly 48,000 Brown apps analyzed roughly 34% applied to Yale.

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@reuynshard

For Harvard applicants the top 5 were

  1. Yale 48%
  2. Princeton 44%
  3. Stanford 40%
  4. Columbia, Penn 39%

For Yale applicants the top 5 were

  1. Harvard 51%
  2. Princeton 46%
  3. Brown 42%
  4. Columbia 41%
  5. Stanford 40%

For Princeton applicants the top 5 were

  1. Harvard 49%
  2. Yale 47%
  3. Penn, Stanford 41%
  4. Columbia 40%

For Stanford applicants the top 5 were

  1. Berkeley 39%
  2. UCLA, Harvard 35%
  3. Yale, Princeton 32%

For MIT applicants the top 5 were

  1. Stanford 44%
  2. Harvard 42%
  3. Princeton 41%
  4. Cornell 39%
  5. Columbia 35%
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@denydenzig how are you getting those top 5? We are going to “overview” and clicking the “learn more” button on the College Overlap section, and we get wildly different overlaps. #1 is UMN (no surprise to a Minnesotan as it’s everyone’s safety here). #2 is UW-Madison (again no surprise as MN has reciprocity). Are they simply accessing data from the local market, or perhaps even the particular HS? Or are you accessing the top five from another function on Naviance?

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When I look at Naviance, for UChicago I get Harvard, Columbia, Penn and Stanford. Probably depends on what high school you are from.

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MIT looks rather strange with no CalTech.

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@Chrchill so you think that the data is high school specific? When I go to the Harvard page, the overlap section doesn’t even show up on our Naviance. That tells me that nobody from my daughter’s high school really applies to Harvard. Which is kind of true.

My concern is that if the data is locale or high school specific then it might not be representative. For instance, UChicago on the East Coast might have a very heavy overlap with IVys. On the West Coast it might have a very heavy overlap with UC schools and Reed. In the Midwest it might have a very heavy overlap with northwestern, UIUC, Michigan, Carlton etc. In other words it’s not really clear from the Naviance data what the true overlaps for UChicago would be on a national basis.

Having said that, I have no doubt that EDII is precisely to pick up applicants on the rebound. Including those who were rebounding from being deferred EA at Uchicago.

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Given the number of apps ( almost 30K to 50K apps analyzed for each college), I highly doubt it is based on one single school. My kid’s school hardly has any kids applying to the top schools or out of state. I looked at the College match data. Do you guys have that tab on your Naviance?

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You can see a fairly strong geographic correlation with this data, along with the HYPS branding. What it does seem to prove out and is fairly obvious is that the HYPS branding is much stronger than the Ivy branding. That is about all I get out of it.

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@JBStillFlying agreeed on ED2, which is true for all EB2’s. UChicago’s admission peers are the ivies, except Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth, MIT ( to which UChicago invariably loses) NU and JHU

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The Caltech data looks very different from the MIT data

For Caltech (based on almost 8,000 apps analyzed) the top 5 is

  1. MIT 64%
  2. Stanford 63%
  3. Berkeley 46%
  4. Princeton 42%
  5. Cornell 40%

What this tells me is that while Caltech students pick MIT in droves, they form a very small percentage of the MIT applicant pool. This data can’t be based on just one school. Nobody applies to Caltech from our school

Depends on how one defines “admission peers”. Ranking/admit rate and yield wise: Clearly yes. But the applicant pool seems very different based on the data. Between 28% to 30% of the Chicago applicant pool, also applies to the non HYP Ivies, but the percentage of the Chicago applicant pool applying to HYPSM seems to be much smaller than that.

Also the data seems to suggest that the among the kids applying to any of the Ivies, percentage of the kids also applying to Chicago doesn’t break the top 5 for any of the schools.

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Here is what Naviance tells me We have analyzed applications from thousands of high schools, to determine which colleges are most likely to overlap with the college you picked, when students apply

Then it shows Students applying to the college you picked are most often applying to these other colleges
So it is not based on trends or patterns from a single high school. Now I am not sure if Naviance has the some issues like parchment where they only are strong in some Geographies. Not sure of their coverage

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@denydenzig Somewhat limited info here as HYPS takes up four of the five slots in this data, leaving one other slot for most likely a local, highly regarded school. Since most students apply to more than just five colleges, I would need to see at least a top 10 list to make any conclusions. As far as I know UChicago could be #6 on all of these lists, however unlikely.

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Yes. But this overlap list includes a huge number of schools ranging for top to safeties. This means nothing.

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Yes. I noticed that too, but it is not that simple either. The applicant pool for Rice, Northwestern, Chicago, Duke, Stanford and Caltech all suggest that kids applying to these schools apply far and wide. It seems like kids in the NorthEast that apply to highly selective colleges like to stick to the NE schools. This pattern persists for LAC’s in the NE as well.

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@CU123

I tried to work out where Chicago may lie on the list for one school like Columbia. Of around 35,000 applicants to Chicago roughly 11,500 applied to Columbia also. To make the top 5 on the Columbia side you would need to be at least at 16,000 (Brown) with very tight clustering between 1 (19,000) and 5. This tells me that Chicago probably made the top 10, but barely.

What this tells me is that less than 1 in 4 students that applied to Columbia also applied to Chicago. That is an interesting piece of application insight. This would also explain why the Parchment cross admit data is statistically not significant for a lot of schools when it comes to Chicago. There doesn’t seem to be much overlap in the application pools at least for some of the more selective schools to satisfy the 95% confidence interval