<p>So, what is the acceptance rate for an international for an ivy (read: yale) school for graduate studies when compared to that (rate) for undergraduate studies?
Just the facts?!</p>
<p>Unanswerable.</p>
<p>Graduate admissions rates can be 5% or less for all applicants at highly-competitive programs.</p>
<p>So. It’s as competitive as the undergrad .</p>
<p>Not necessarily.</p>
<p>First of all, it doesn’t make sense to ask about graduate admission rates across all fields, since fields are vastly different. A university might have a 70% admission rate for their MBA program and a 5% admission rate for the PhD program in clinical psychology.</p>
<p>Second, as far as I am aware, none of the Ivies are publishing their admission statistics broken down by domestic vs international applicants.</p>
<p>Third, graduate applicants are judged by rather different criteria from undergrads, so it wouldn’t make sense to compare admission rates anyway.</p>
<p>For what it’s worth, I noticed that some of the top graduate programs in pure math have a surprisingly high admission rate. That doesn’t mean that they are easy to get into, only that their applicant pool is self-selecting: students who know that they won’t get accepted just don’t apply, unlike for college where people like to submit long-shot applications. For example, the graduate curriculum at some of the tippy top programs is structured in such a way that only the strongest students would be able to succeed in it, and there’s no point applying if you know that you don’t have the prerequisites to attend.</p>
<p>Solid question, if you weren’t trying to compare it with UG rates.</p>
<p>Graduate admissions is a completely different horse. Not only is the pool often more self-selecting, but you also often need to have a discrete set of achievements, into which ECs, leadership, and your sob story need not factor. therefore, an individual applicant who, say, didn’t make Yale UG, who is very strong in the subject he is applying to grad school for will have a high chance of getting in, whereas if he is not, he is screwed. </p>
<p>tbh the UG admit rates for individual subjects at Oxbridge have more semblance to grad admits than Yale UG admits.</p>
<p>Yale of all the ivies has lots/Tons of data online with regards to their admission of International students both undergrad and grad.</p>
<p>[1976-2000</a>, Yale Book of Numbers | Office of Institutional Research](<a href=“http://oir.yale.edu/1976-2000-yale-book-numbers#B]1976-2000”>http://oir.yale.edu/1976-2000-yale-book-numbers#B)</p>
<p>Search for international students</p>
<p>Also a couple of the ivies do give departmental breakdowns look them for graduate school and undergraduate all the way to international student admissions. Have others have pointed out this is not really helpful at all though it could be useful for entertainment purposes.</p>
<p>It depends on which ivy. Most ivies have great ug programs but are not up to par when it comes to grad schools. Others, like harvard, which has arguably most top ranked grad programs can be extremely difficult to get into. Throw into the mix the self-selection which previous posters spoke about and it becomes very hard to tell what the true admission rates are. In terms of international applicants, one would think that an international applicant may have the diversity “hook,” but then again the application pool for schools like Princeton and Harvard(for example) is already extremely diverse. These aren’t the best programs in the USA but they are arguably the best globally.<br>
IMO since you are applying to very specific programs, you must be at the top of the range of the competition. Also, even if you are at the top, other factors play significant roles, such as how you fit in to the particular program. Keep in mind that you will mostly likely be teaching at some point, therefore it’s very important to be on par with the pedagogy at the particular program. Hence, a less qualified applicant may be selected over another because he/she fits the pedagogy better. I think the how you fit the pedagogy is probably the most important factor, since as we already know, the pool is already self-selected for the most part.</p>