Intl student asking for us job advice

You won’t be able to work THAT many hours and earn that much money.

Please pick an affordable college. If you have sufficiently high stats, you could probably get decent merit aid at some colleges like U of Alabama, U of New Mexico. That way, you could save whatever money you have for IF your dad loses his job.

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Student loans are simple interest and most can have the interest deferred until the student graduates or is out of school. Private loans to your uncle are most likely to be a specific term with the interest simple but repayments begin immediately. If payments are missed, the interest could convert to compounded with additional fees too.

You are missing the point that schools are required to limit the work that a student can perform by federal regulations. It’s not that the school is being mean in not letting you work 30 hours per week or earn $30k per year, but that they cannot do that. The visa is issued by the federal government but the school is required to supervise you. If you cannot pay the tuition in year 3 or 4, then you can’t register for school and the school is required to report that to he federal government and your visa could be cancelled.

Pick a school where the money your father has now will last for all 4 years ($40k per year rather than $80k). U of New Mexico has been suggested. There are several schools where the out of state tuition isn’t that bad, and international tuition is usually just a little more than OOS. Usually it is the southern schools or midwest schools that have lower OOS tuition.

But you can’t earn the money here as an international student. A little bit, yes, but that will mostly cover your expenses like books and food, and probably wouldn’t be enough to cover international travel.

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US colleges can hire international students but federal regulations require them to limit them to a maximum of 20 hours/week. At our college students don’t get anywhere near that amount. The actual number is 8 hours/week at just under $12/hour.

If your uncle cosigns US loans for you will you be able to earn enough when you return home to repay him?

I have a dream. ACtually its more of a plan. I want to gain a world-class UG education and then become an IB. I want to live in the US. Have no interest in coming back to my country. I’ll work day and night to get there knowing as an intl ill be severely disadvantaged. This is the one thing where im going to go all out.

the uni suggested is one which can never lead me to a BB IB. Thats why i didnt consider it. sorry!

@fruitcocktail your issue is finding an affordable U.S. college where you will be accepted.

I will let others speak to your issue of getting a job here in the U.S. as an international. It’s not going to be easy…and actually may require that you go back to your native country. @aunt_bea or @happymomof1 or @ucbalumnus can you comment on the process for getting a job here after an international student completes their bachelors degree? My understanding…it’s not an easy thing.

I would urge you to read the info in this link regarding the school of business at U of New Mexico. I’m hoping @WayOutWestMom will comment.

https://bba.mgt.unm.edu/coursework/concentration-information.asp

@fruitcocktail As @thumper1 said, your DREAM should be finding an affordable college where you will be accepted and not forced into another gap year. Please take some time to think that through so your efforts aren’t wasted.

Have you considered UK universities? I don’t know a lot about the opportunities in IB after grad, but the COA would be much better.

When the more knowledgeable posters provide advice on the limitations when working under a student visa and the chances of getting a work visa after graduation, please listen. If your goal is to be an IB, you need to accept that there are more realistic ways to reach that goal. Your plan can be adjusted and you can realize that dream, although it may be through a different path than you are envisioning now.

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International students who are at co-op schools may use their OPT time to do co-ops.

OPT employment comes with restrictions.

  1. employment must directly relate to the student’s major
  2. employment (full or part time) cannot exceed 12 months in total (over 4 years)
  3. all employment must be approved in advance by the compliance office at the student’s university
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school of business at U of New Mexico.

UNM’s business school is fine, but it’s not a stepping stone to a career in IB.

UNM business grads tend to go to work in local industries (Intel, General Mills, Netflix, PNM, local banks/credit unions, local healthcare organizations, various nearby casinos), or for the city, state or federal government.

Students cannot apply directly to Anderson School of Management. They first must complete 2 years of pre-business and GE coursework, then apply for one of the limited number of seats in Anderson at the end of their sophomore year. Admission to the business school is competitive.

Switching from a F-1 visa to a HB-1 or J-1 work visa is difficult. Your employer must first prove to the US government that there isn’t any US citizen who can do the job the international student is being hired for. That’s a pretty high bar to clear.

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I know this is about job advice as an international student, but I remember you’ve also posted about choosing a college. I was wondering if you looked into Rutgers. It has a very good business program and supposedly is great for international students and they have close proximity to NYC and opportunities for students to make Wall Street connections and opportunities.

https://myrbs.business.rutgers.edu/road-wall-street

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“I want to gain a world-class UG education and then become an IB. I want to live in the US. Have no interest in coming back to my country. I’ll work day and night to get there knowing as an intl ill be severely disadvantaged. This is the one thing where im going to go all out.”

When you are interviewed for your student visa application, by an agent of the US Immigration service, and you answer in this manner, your application to enter the US will be denied.

The universities will educate you, and that’s it. You are expected to return to your country after graduation. The US business community is under no obligation to employ you and won’t employ you without a legal US work visa. It has nothing to do with where you go to school or how perfect you are in your field of study. US Immigration runs the show.

Employers will let you train with an OPT, after that training is completed, they say “thank you for your time, and good luck in your country. They will not sponsor you knowing there is a long line of qualified and experienced American applicants that can do the job.

Since you’ve chosen an ultra competitive major, the employers are bound by immigration rules to hire US citizens and permanent residents FIRST. Sponsorships cost them money and time and they really don’t want that hassle with US Immigration. As an international candidate, in a competitive job market, whose dream is to live in the US, you will be rejected by employers because you won’t have a legal right to work in the US.

Going to a top university, like expensive NYU that you’ve picked, won’t change immigration policies. No matter how hard you work, day or night.

Oh, and for the record, most school-related jobs will garner you about $2000 per year and should cover day-to-day incidentals.

Part time jobs won’t garner $30-40k per year. International students are limited in how many hours they can work through their universities. Trying to work “under the table” is a big no-no. Get caught and you risk being expelled from your university and will be deported.

A lot of US working people don’t make that kind of money working full time!
Do yourself a favor and do some actual research about attending a US university. Don’t forget that you must pay for health insurance, which is separate from university tuition and fees.

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I also encourage you to research UK unis. They require 3 not 4 years of tuition and are significantly less expensive than US schools. London has IB firms and staying and working in the UK after graduation is a bit less of a challenge.

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And yet, hundreds of thousands of foreigners get work visas every year.

It might not be easy, but is definitely not impossible for a foreign student to obtain work visa.

Is your goal to be in the US, or is your goal to not go back to your home country? Those are two different things.

Australia and Canada have excellent universities and immigration policies that are much friendlier than the US. Look at both of those places.

Do not come here with the goal of staying here. The rules are constantly changing, and utterly irrational.

@tarator - Yes some recent graduates do manage to score H1B visas every year, but those individuals are rare exceptions. Most of the H1B’s go to people with multiple years of work experience in specialized fields.

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I agree, most of the students that get H1B were enrolled in grad school. In fact, there 20 thousand visas every year designated for grad students graduating from US universities.

Immigration rules have only become stricter. My daughter’s friend just completed his interview in August. With Covid issues, the scrutiny is very intense.

Hundreds of thousands won’t continue to be accepted. Local communities need to be able to support new residents, and new residents tend to target some of the over-populated cities; communities just don’t have the tax-based resources, nor employment options.

Yes, thousands have applied for visas, but the fields of employment are very narrow in scope and target occupational shortages.

This OP wants to do IB. There are no shortages of IB candidates.

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The limit for H1Bs is reached every year, and I believe, the acceptable candidates are so many more than the slots that the visas are given by lotteries.

I don’t see how that will change any time soon. And I hope it doesn’t, because most of these people contribute a lot to the society.

Don’t say that during your F-1 visa interview!

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