Is Berkeley OOS even worth applying to if I am applying to 10+ colleges?

What happens to Penn State?

It was to my understanding that one could only apply EA/ED to ONE school. Am I wrong?

Multiple EAs, one SCEA or ED. But check the school website. Some schools are more quirky than others.

Getting off-topic with a hijacking post, but yes, you are wrong. Individual schools may have greater restrictions, but in general, you can only apply to one school ED. However, assuming the ED school and/or the EA school allows it, you may apply to as many EA schools as you want. Barring something major, though (i.e., “I changed my mind” is not valid), if you are accepted to the ED school, you have committed to that school.

If you have further questions about EA/ED after doing some research, please start a new discussion.

@DrGoogle well, when people started to question me and asking if I could even afford penn state if I couldn’t afford UCB, I finally came to my senses and took it off my list. then someone suggested BU to me, and I looked into it so now it is sorta my substitute for penn state, not to mention that it has a better FS Club and is higher ranked on USN

And as for UMich, when I first talked about UMich to my parents, they didn’t like it because they thought theiir B-School wasn’t as good as I said it was(they claimed it wasnt as good as NYU Stern, even though in most cases, it is) . Now i am pretty sure they support me if I wanna apply I guess because I proved them wrong? idk, but they probably think it is worth paying the OOS tuition for, since it is worldy known, if I can get in.

@erins dad, tbh I dont want to go haha, but both my parents want that to be my safety since I can still skate unlike VTech, and I can still live at home (which I dislike!). but at least it saves a lot of $$. I most likely will transfer out if I do end up going to GMU, but thats not the worst scenario in the world and anyways I am pretty sure I have a really good shot at BU!

It would be literally impossible to raise your unweighted GPA from a 3.2 to a 3.6 in three semesters unless you are taking ten classes every semester. The math wouldn’t work out.

Post #84, I must have skipped a few pages. Thanks for the explanation.

If you guys could help me out with my most recent post, that would be great! I am trying to figure out whether I should do AP Econ or Human Geo

Mine did AP Econ, it was a relatively easy AP.

Do you already have AP World and APUSH on your junior/senior schedules? If so, then pick whichever class - AP Econ or AP HUGE - you think is more interesting or has the better teacher.

Your list still looks too reachy. I would say Middlebury, Williams and Bowdoin are not reasonable reaches and your application would only contribute to lowering their acceptance rates already in the teens.

For a safety or low match, what about Beloit? With your current grades and SAT score (you do have a 2200 - it’s not a projected score, right?, you will likely get a nice amount of merit aid. Similarly, because you have Carleton on your list, consider St. Olaf, another match school. I’m suggesting these two schools because it doesn’t sound like GMU is really a safety - you don’t sound like you would be happy to go there. Apply EA to these schools and see what happens.

For the life of me I could never understand why anyone would want to pay OOS tuition to any state university.

That said, OP, I think it depends on what you want to do after college and where you want to live. If your goal is to major in Comp. Sci and work in Silicon Valley or anywhere in the west coast, then UCB may be a good option. Otherwise, you really shouldn’t pay so much for a public school and should just go to your own in-state flagship. The rule is never borrow more than what you will make first year out of college. A top CS grad from UCB could probably start at $150k a year at Google, but business majors don’t get paid nearly as much. For OOS it’ll probably cost you $200k for 4 years(assuming you graduate in 4 years, might be longer). That’s more debt than anyone should take on, unless you luck out, join a startup that takes off, then it could be a good investment. But not everyone is that lucky.

Apply and see if you get financial aid, if you don’t, don’t go to UCB. it’s not worth it. Once you get your first job, no one cares where you went to school.

I’m of the “Safety First” line of thought. Our daughter is a sophomore as well with a higher GPA but lower test scores than what you have. Right now, were focusing on schools that:

A. we are confident she could get accepted into.
B. we could afford…safely…with no aid.
C. she would actually he happy attending.

Item C. is key, there are so many threads of students disappointed on having to attend their safeties and looking for other ideas.

We are certainly coming across many reaches (academically and financially), but we are agreeing not to focus on those until after her junior year.

Our GC actually also had a few suggestions of schools she would be accepted into, that likely provide good merit aid (based on having a good track record with students from our HS). Have you asked him/her? (Sorry if you mentioned it earlier, just getting caught up on the thread.)

10-15 year out of Haas working at Google as a financial manager gets about $160k, 2013 salary.

Conditioned on affordability (which is unlikely for the OP):

  1. The OOS public is low cost even for OOS (e.g. SD Mines, UMN Morris, Truman State).
  2. The OOS public is more desirable by whatever criteria than less expensive options, and less expensive than other similarly desirable by whatever criteria options.

Have you considered applying to north dakota state university?

@nasa204 please read my last response to drgoogle

North Dakota state university is the best option for you. Probably a safety?

@NASA2014 l guess im gonna have to say this again. My parents do not want to pay 50 grand a year for an oos public, unless it is UMich because UMich is worldly known, and I have a chance of getting in. On the other hand, Berkeley is even harder to get into so I do not think I should apply any more. I originally had penn state on my list but I do not want my parents to pay that much money for an okay university (it is a good uni, but my parents are asian so they have really high standards). If i did apply though, I definitely wouldn’t make it a safety.

North dakota is OOS is 26,251 and is so much cheaper than Umich