<p>So far, I plan on applying to Stanford, Duke, Columbia, UCLA, UNC, and UVA (all out of state). I hope to go on a pre med track with a possible business major or a major in one of the science fields. I am looking for schools that are on the coast, not in New England, and near a city. DO you have any good recommendations for safety schools that follow my criteria and will give me plenty of money based on my stats (shown below). Thanks so much.
-GPA:
Unweighted-4.0
Weighted-4.597</p>
<p>-EC's and Awards
NHS President
HNHS
Gold Medal on National Spanish Exam
Attended People to People Leadership Summit on Technology at Stanford
Boy Scout (Eagle Scout)
First trombone in Jazz Band
First trombone in Marching band (only 9th+10th)
Part time job (15 hrs/week)
Around 200+ community service hours (at hospital and food pantry)
Student Council
Peer Mentoring (you are paired with a special needs student that you do activities with and have a meeting with once a week)</p>
<p>I will be taking out loans if my yearly tuition is over $30000. And I dont mean directly on the coast I’m just not looking for schools in the Midwest.</p>
<p>If you put on your best, most congenial face and you interview well, there are many schools that might offer you a full tuition or full ride scholarship. Check here:</p>
<p>With your scores, you’re guaranteed full tuition at some schools, and at Tulane, if you can convince them that you’re genuinely interested in this very nice school, you can easily acquire a 30K merit award if not full tuition. When you apply to schools for which you are overly qualified, do the extra things that convince the admissions office that you’re genuinely interested and knowledgeable about the school. If you bring the tone that pops up here and there in your initial post, you’re going to turn some people off.</p>
<p>Do you realize that YOU can only borrow $5500 for frosh year? $35k will NOT pay for UCLA or other schools on your list. </p>
<p>And …it is a super bad idea to even consider substantial loans if you are premed. Do you realize how much debt you’d have once you graduate from med school??? </p>
<p>Why would anyone want to be an OOS premed at UCLA??? ugh!</p>
<p>You need to look over that list of assured large merit scholarships. </p>
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For you, UR is an academic safety. Financially, I bet you can keep it under $30,000 per year.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t bet that. He might get a $15k per year award, but that won’t put costs anywhere close to $30k per year. </p>
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<p>In another thread you ask what your chances are for getting merit at the above schools…your chances are very low.</p>
<p>mom2 is correct about UR. There’s a serious break between their full tuition awards and the next level down. It often is, as mom2 said, 15K. Again, I like your rank and your stats and ECs, so I think you could charm your way to a full tuition. But if you don’t then it’s much less money at UR. The same situation exists at Pitt, but there seem to be not only full ride awards but many full tuition awards–many more than UR–so I’d suggest there as a possibility. Competitive full tuition/ride scholarships are extremely difficult to get, and figuring out what you could have done differently if you don’t get one is a useless exercise in most cases. A crapshoot even more difficult, in most cases, than HYSP admissions.</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids what is wrong with OOS UCLA premed and you did not really answer my questions you just kind of said that I should give up on all these colleges I’m looking at now and look at once that are easier to get into</p>
<p>mom2 read your post to suggest you would take out 30K in loans to pay for college, which is highly unlikely. </p>
<p>I read your post to say that your family could afford to spend 30K and so you wanted to go somewhere that with FA would not cost you more than 30K. </p>
<p>@jkeil911 to be honest I am pretty sure that my family could afford most tuition bills that a college could throw at us be we are aiming for a school that would end up costing 30K after financial aid and scholarships. I highly doubt I will get much financial aid however because I am an only child and we have an income of around 170K</p>
<p>You might get some aid at Yale, but you’re right there aren’t too many other need-based aid packages for you. So go for the big merit in a safety or two. Keep this in mind: your family is a great but not an bottomless asset, so try to get thru undergrad without exhausting its generosity because you’re going to need some help with med school probably. Talk to your parents about that before deciding on a college.</p>
<p>@jkeil911 and @mom2collegekids
Maybe you know something that I don’t. But I do know a freshman at UR. His ACT was 31 and his class rank was about the top 20% of his private prep school. His family is not paying $30,000 to attend. In fact, his father told me that the difference in cost for him to attend UR instead of staying home at Ohio State was not significant enough to think about. However, I do know that he pursued outside scholarships as well as UR scholarships. I am not privy to any hard figures on any of that.</p>
<p>Clearly, a family income of $170,000 is not going get much need aid for an only child. I did not have that data when I made my recommendation.</p>
<p>Merit aid is the only serious path to pursue. I recommend lowering sights down from HYPS. Small liberal arts colleges would love to have a student with a 34 ACT, 2190 SAT and first in the class. So, also take a look at Ohio Wesleyan. It’s a rigorous college which will prepare you for med school. Guarantee you can attend for less than $30,000</p>
<p>@jkeil911
I edited my post after learning about the $170K family income. Anyhow, the figures I got from UR for an AGI of $105,000 were the $15,000 merit award plus another $17,700 in grants. That’s from the UR site itself. They also offered the standard $5500 loan, but was not part of the calculation.</p>
<p>Now that I know that the family income is $170K and the OP is an only child, obviously merit aid is is the only realistic option, and, yes, UR certainly will cost well over $30,000.</p>
<p>I wasn’t questioning your veracity, @NROTCgrad. You’re an officer and a gentleman or lady, I’m sure. I just found it a curious FA offer. I’d seen Northwestern offer my D a “scholarship” in the npc (something I’d not seen another school do) but no other need-based aid, and I’d seen UR offer a merit with no need-based, but not in an NPC and not what you found. I’m just trying to understand all the permutations of how money is dispensed by colleges. It’s a variety of financing that has puzzled more than one parent, and has driven a friend who’s a wall street bonds analyst nearly insane at times. </p>
<p>Just ran the net price calculator for Ohio Wesleyan for an only child with family income of $170,000. Came back with combined grant and merit aid of $28,000 (they did not break it down), cutting total cost of attendance almost exactly in half; down to about $28,000.</p>
<p>This is not rare for many small liberal arts colleges. Some might offer more, but some less.</p>
<p>@NROTCgrad I really appreciate the help but to be honest I’m not really interested in a small liberal arts college, I was more leaning towards larger schools. However, after this post I’m kind of second guessing my whole college search process and should just start over</p>