<p>^^^^ lol........yea i also think that kids from Columbia SEAS (financial engineering) or kids from Columbia College who major in econ/math/comp sci/ etc will have an easier time getting to wall street than U Chicago grads....</p>
<p>^^ I did not apply to Columbia, smart azz. </p>
<p>U of Chicago is just as good as Columbia. The only thing that separates the 2 is name recognition. In terms of recruiting none of the top pe/hedge funds recruit at Columbia. Since when is chicago not a top school? U of Chicago is notorious for producing bad azz traders. </p>
<p>Now quagmire, stop mentioning financial engeneering. It will NOT (for the last time) give you a leg up compared to liberal arts Columbia grads!!!! If anything banks will ask you " Why Financial Engeneering and not Econ". if financial engineering major had a 3.6 and a Columbia econ major had a 3.6. (all things equal) the econ major would get the same opps...So your Financial engineering does nothing for you. Unlike a Upenn econ grad vs. Upenn finance grad. </p>
<p>"but u have to admit, quant skills come first before anything else....like a lotta hedge funds, even hedge fund managers have Ph.Ds in comp sci, physics"</p>
<p>NOOOOOO! Once again, your quant ability is relevant but not a determinant. Most hedge fund managers dont come from a ultra quant background (ex physics, mathematics, engeneering). To think a PHD is required or needed is ridiculous. A Harvard MBA student will place better than a Havard Physics/CompSci PHD student on wall street, ANYDAY. No doubt about that!</p>
<p>...now stop posting your embarrassing yourself. lol</p>
<p>jmoney, you should care to look up Clifford Asness, Kenneth Griffin, James Simons, David Shaw etc, actually, just go to this link<br>
A</a> Guide to the Hedge-Fund Elite -- New York Magazine </p>
<p>all im sayin is kids at Columbia are not at a significant disadvantage at gettin jobs on wall street, in response to your statement "Columbia is no where near HYPSW. ".....i never said that columbia econ grads are at a disadvantage</p>
<p>btw jmoney are u in highschool or college</p>
<p>All of those guys on your list posses strong quant ability but not all of them come from a quantitative background (math, phys, CompSci majors). Like I said while quant ability is desired ...it is not a determinant. </p>
<p>Plus, i never said that you believe Columbia econ majors are at a disadvantage. </p>
<p>You said this "Columbia's financial engineering degree will surely open a lotta doors for u to wall street"
All I am saying is that your logic is flawed... the financial engineering program, which you promote, will do nothing for you relative to other Columbia majors..just b/c it requires more quant ability to complete.</p>
<p>I am a College Freshman? why</p>
<p>so basically this thread has turned into jmoney screaming that Chicago is better than Columbia, on a Columbia board. All while he's a college freshman, with one semester (and no real-world experience) under his belt.</p>
<p>I think (A) he drank the orientation kool-aid pretty hard, and (B) we should stop feeding the troll. Let's not give anyone a reason to Report Problem Post, and just be the better person here.</p>
<p>I think all factual questions have been answered.</p>
<p>Umm obviously you cant read... b/c i have never said that Chicago is better than Columbia...in fact in every single one of my posts i said Columbia is a great school...which it is.</p>
<p>2nd ...I have real world work experience...i have interned/ shadowed desks at Goldman last summer as a GS scholar. I think i have a very good understanding of the financial markets and the recruiting process.</p>
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<li><p>Orientation Kool-aid? what are you talking about... i want to transfer out of U of Chicago...though i still believe it is a great school.</p></li>
<li><p>Do you even know what a troll is? B/c if you do your using it in the wrong context.</p></li>
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<p>well im gonna take jmoney's word cuz hez interned in GS....jmoney would you agree that kids in Penn's M&T (dual degree, business + Wharton), have a leg up compared to wharton single degree kids when applyin to wall street jobs?</p>
<p>UPenn Wharton.. will give you endless upon endless of opportunities..from a thorough rigorous program ....backed by a strong alumni connection. Therefore the program you choose will not make as much of a difference as your GPA. A finance degree from Wharton will bring plenty of opps as long as you have a strong GPA. In all seriousness if Wall Street is your goal a finance degree with good grades will put you above most plus save you money..compared to a dual degree program. I would only suggest the M&T program if you really enjoy the rigor...not to just stand out to employers or to get an edge over your peers...b/s the rigor might do more damage than good (gpa wise)</p>
<p>Wharton Finance w/ high gpa stands out no matter what</p>
<p>jmoney check your private messages</p>
<p>jmoney do wall street firms recruit from top scools from the south, like Rice, UT Austin's busineess school (McCombs) etc...what about schools like carnegie mellon, U Mich, and west coast schools like stanford....are i banks, and other wall street firms inclined to look at only schools in the north east??</p>
<p>Quag_mire</p>
<p>First, the financial engineering major at columbia is by no means guaranteed to help you land a job. </p>
<p>You want to look at what schools are targeted? Go to a career website for a bank and take some time to fill out the application for an internship. Go to <a href="https://secure.db.konetic.org/%5B/url%5D">https://secure.db.konetic.org/</a> and fill it out as if you're applying for the Global Analyst position. You'll see the schools they're targeting when you're asked to select what school you're attending.</p>
<p>Oh jmoney,</p>
<p>How'd you land that internship as a pre-freshman?</p>
<p>It wasn't a real internship in the traditional sense, as he admitted himself he shadowed desks at GS. I even know people at CUNY who got into those Scholar programs in HS, so everyone calm down.</p>
<p>Idk what the argument of UChicago vs Columbia for Wall Street jobs was about...I think both schools are equal in terms of background, it is how an individual does in either school that determines his/her placement on Wall st.</p>
<p>I know Wall St. is like the "Center of the World Economy", but bieng from UChicago, don't u guys also have a great advantage in business internships as well? I mean Chicago has the Loop Financial District which is larger business district than Lower Manhattan (but smaller than Midtown). I mean I'm sure Chicago has its own strengths in business when compared to New York. Chicago has the world's largest futures exchange, the Chicago Board of Trade is bigger than NY Board of Trade, and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange is bigger than NY's. So Chicago is nothing to scoff at.</p>
<p>Maaaaaybe......CHicago Vs. NY in FInancial Importance? =)</p>
<p>Well New York is obviously more important financial center than Chicago. I'm just saying UChicago shouldn't think about Wall St. that much, since Chicago itself has enormous amounts of business. I mean Chicago's skyline says it all</p>
<p>Who wants to live in Chicago?</p>
<p>more attractive and friendlier women, mayhap?</p>
<p>Really? Granted, Columbia girls are not the prettiest, but New York in general is pretty good.</p>
<p>Btw, for all the prospies, what the guy from UChicago said about recruiting at Columbia was a lie.
"In terms of recruiting none of the top pe/hedge funds recruit at Columbia."
Yea, I'm sure Blackstone and DE Shaw don't belong to the top, lol... Where does the guys get his information from?</p>
<p>Yeah dude. You have no idea how bad we've got it in NYC until you spend a lot of time in the south, or southern california, or even the midwest. Some of them even smile once in a while! For peak hotness, new york can compete with anyone, but for AVERAGE hotness - especially on campus - it's a real bummer. 5s and 6s act like they're 8s and 9s - and get treated that way.</p>
<p>Seriously, visit your friends at Florida State sometime, or Arizona State. The ugliest, shyest girl at the party would be like an automatic admit to Delta Gamma at Columbia. I'm exaggerating for effect, but really, there's a lot of truth here.</p>
<p>Wow are we off-topic.</p>