<p>M=MIT</p>
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<p>M is for Mississippi State. Duh.</p>
<p>Oh… </p>
<p>no I didn’t know what M was off the top of my head, it’s the first time I’ve seen HYPSM. Maybe because MIT is an abbreviation, it didn’t click with me.</p>
<p>Yes, I think it is. I think that to get into Harvard you have to have a “special something” that comes across in your application. My son who is now a senior at Brown had a beautiful application a few years ago. He was the valedictorian at a large public high school in Massachusetts with a 2360 on his SAT. His AP scores and SAT 2 scores were equally impressive. He was very accomplished in track with numerous awards and records. He had lots of math AMC accomplishments as well. He got into Dartmouth and Brown, but stayed on Harvard’s wait list until the end of June to then be rejected.</p>
<p>Only about a third of Harvard’s admits are in the echelon that phantasmagoric says separate that HYP etc group. The rest are outstanding all a rounders like viewer’s boy at Brown. So once you get past that 700-800 geniuses, special athletes, legacies, Natalie Portmans etc. it’s a crapsoot. Any number of kids in viewer’s boys group find the HYP odds off-putting for all rounders and so they opt for ED at Brown Columbia or top 10 liberal arts colleges. They actually are making sensible choices that have nothing to do with any thought they aren’t quite HYP material, or choosing something not quite on selective par. Have a look at Brown’s new president if there is any question of what P thinks of B.</p>
<p>M…isn’t that already covered as H, since it’s Harvard’s engineering department?</p>
<p>Post #25 - not a crapshoot.</p>
<p>Well there is a crapshoot element to how they admit some people compared to other, similar candidates in the “swim” round.</p>
<p>Snowdays are sweet… but hate the cold part… im thinking stanford’s awesome weather and hot chicks !</p>
<p>How about this?</p>
<p>ED Columbia vs. SCEA Harvard?</p>
<p>In my case, Harvard and Columbia are equally “enthralling…” I will go to any of those top 5,6 schools if I get in… Maybe the town of Princeton is not as “cool” as Morningside Heights… haha</p>
<p>Post 23: The term crap shoot not intended to be synonymous with lottery. It specifically refers to the staggering odds for superb all a rounders AFTER the stars/slotted admits discussed above are taken. This because of the number of positions already filled. Also it’s a huge pool of highly qualified students. My point was that this accounts for decisions by some of this kind of suitable HYP candidate to apply ED to other top schools. They can improve their chances from an insanely unpredictable 1 in 20 to a difficult but not impossible 1 in 5.</p>
<p>so given that I am a typical HYP applicant (maybe a bit more special than the simple majority of 2300/4.0, but still…)… will doing Columbia ED significantly enhance the chance of my admission?</p>
<p>For me, Columbia and Harvard are equally attractive… wouldn’t complain a thing about Columbia… <3 <3 <3</p>
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<p>I’d say so, if only based on a slightly less distinguished applicant pool. Generally, the less attractive applicants apply ED to Columbia/Penn/Dartmouth/Brown, in hopes of gaining some sort of advantage. While they do sometimes get admitted early, generally, many ED spots at these schools get taken up by people such as yourself. Since it is ED, it would make sense for the school to pick the most qualified people it can.
So, yes, you stand a better chance at Columbia ED than HYP SCEA, logistics-wise. Unless of course, you’re part of the slotted admits already discussed.</p>
<p>then i would say columbia ED. For me, the order is Stanford-Harvard-Columbia-Princeton-MIT-Yale-UPenn/Chicago-Brown-Dartmouth/Duke-Johns Hopkins-Northwestern/Cornell-Berkeley-Georgetown</p>
<p>I think I am really interest in Columbia ED.</p>