Is it a bad idea to try for varsity at UMich if you are not in sport scholarship?

What he should do is make a judgment call after first semester. If he is doing well then I would say go for 203 and 280. Don’t get me wrong, they are definitely not easy classes by any standards, but if your son gets a 3.7 first semester all he needs is a 2.9 gpa second semester (roughly, depends on credits).

And yes if your son gets a minimum 3.3 GPA after freshman year he will keep his spot in ross and his GPA will reset (for business). For his minor GPA the courses will still count, but in reality you dont even need to list a minor GPA.

Pre admits are generally vary smart, and as long as he tries his hardest I would bet he would easily get above a 3.7 in the first semester courses you listed. Many do not try so hard, however, as they rely on the GPA reset, and many even lose their spot because of it.

And to be honest, I am not really taking the varsity sport into consideration because I dont see any real way of him making the team…Everyone on the smaller team sports like tennis are recruited and will be given priority over a walk on.

@michmaybe
You sounded like you knew with personal experience. Thank you very much for the suggestion for what classes to take.

I am much less worried about the varsity thing now. There is probably one spot max. He did say the 2 kids on the D1 team are his level at the summer camp, but I still think there is very little chance for him to make that one spot. I probably worried too much without knowing the situation.

@michmaybe @JH8888

If he does make varsity, having a great GPA first semester might allow for two EECS classes second semester. I would recommend doing EECS 183 first semester. If he gets an A/A- in 183 AND a 3.7+ overall GPA, try 203 and 280 with the rest of the course load for second semester being light.

While Ross has a GPA reset, a lot of recruiting for financial services/consulting (if your son is interested in that) happens in the fall. That means if he wants an internship for the summer after his sophomore year, I am sure that having a good freshman pre-Ross GPA can be of help (since he will nor have his Ross GPA until after first semester sophomore year).

@JH8888

IMO if he doesnt get a flat A in 183 he shouldnt do the minor. 183 is the basics, it gets a lot harder. An A- would be borderline.

yikes is V right about the recruiting. I didnt think of that. Definitely something to consider.

@10s4life
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Now I know the situation about varsity, I feel better that most likely he won’t make the team.

How much time does he need to spend on club tennis if he plays it? My wish is for him to study, study, study. Can he quit anytime he wants? My son usually under estimates a situation. Overly confident. I am concerned he may end up with too many things on his plate.

@JH8888

Dont push you kid too much about studying all the time. He will have more than enough free time to do everything he wants even with a club sport. Also confidence is a spectacular trait as long as a work ethic is attached to it.

If your kid would genuinely enjoy playing on the team, speaking to the coach wouldn’t hurt. There’s a kid who went to my high school, left for a tennis academy, and is now playing on UM’s tennis team. From what I’ve heard, he is having a great time playing for the team and doing fine in school. But he is also incredible at tennis, and wasn’t allowed to play for my high school team more than 3 times a year because of he was sponsored and there was some type of conflict there.