<p>Just curious...</p>
<p>If someone is applying to a safety, is it possible the safety will not accept the student because the school knows the student will probably not go there? Would they rather choose someone more likely to go to their school? I guess it depends on how important the yield number (I mean the number of kids that attend of those who are accepted) is for the college, right?</p>
<p>It’s doubtful. The school won’t reject students for being “overqualified” as having them would just make their school look better. Also, in state schools realize that the student might just be applying there because of the financial benefit, so they will still accept them. Make sense?</p>
<p>Yup thanks!</p>
<p>There are some cases like that. It is called Tufts effect.</p>
<p>Some schools are reputed to do that (google Tufts syndrome). Some schools use ‘demonstrated interest’ when deciding on you. There have been past discussions on the topic here.</p>
<p>I am not 100% confident of this [Coltron’s comment]. The colleges also care about their “yield” numbers, so the more kids they admit that turn them down drops their yield numbers. I personally know several students who were over-qualified for their safeties/targets and did NOT get in – presumably because they were “ghost” applications. One of the sudents this past year ended up contacting the school (because she didn’t get into other key schools) and the school explained that because they had never heard from her, they knew that she didn’t really intend on going there. She was to convince the school and actually was “accepted late” and is now attending these schools.</p>
<p>I was referring more to in state public schools in my comment. Schools like ASU, etc., that don’t care about yield numbers that much.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone! I guess it is super important to demonstrate interest after all!</p>
<p>Yes, demonstrate interest is helpful for schools in all tiers, no matter it is a safety or reach. But usually, you worry less about safety.</p>
<p>I don’t quite agree with that. </p>
<p>Many top-out-of-sight colleges (e.g., HYP) do not give a hang about an applicant’s demonstrated interest. They get close to 20 applicants for every slot, and they can safely assume that most of them are pretty darn interested. And many respectable but attainable colleges (e.g., American) are frequently said to reject very highly qualified applicants who don’t demonstrate interest in them. </p>
<p>So for highly qualified, highly ambitious applicants, showing interest in safeties may be more important and more valuable than showing interest in reaches.</p>
<p>No, you actually need to demonstrate more interest with safeties. You need to make them think you would go if admitted.</p>
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Princeton indicates that the applicant’s demonstrated interested is considered in their CDS and was highlighted as practicing yield protection in the Avery study. Among Parchment members with a predicted acceptance chance of ~30%*, there was a 100% acceptance rate among Parchment members who applied REA (showing demonstrated interest) and 0% acceptance rate among members who applied RD. </p>
<p>*Parchment data seems to be broken at the moment, so I am going by memory and cannot confirm exact value.</p>
<p>OK, maybe not P. I know less about P than H & Y.</p>
<p>From this article, 26.5% of private and 5.6% public schools care about demonstrated interest:
<a href=“http://www.nacacnet.org/research/PublicationsResources/Marketplace/Documents/RTPBrief_Factors.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nacacnet.org/research/PublicationsResources/Marketplace/Documents/RTPBrief_Factors.pdf</a></p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
<p>billcsho - I am not sure about what you mean by your post (I know you said “enough said”, but maybe I am just kind of slow). Are you saying it is important to demonstrate interest to safeties or not?</p>
<p>Adcoms will know if their school is someone’s safety by looking at an applicant’s stats. My kid’s safety school called her the night before decision came out to ask her if they were still a strong contender.</p>
<p>Less public cares about demonstrated interest while most people choose them as safety. That is why I said you usually worry less about demonstrated interest for safety. In any case, demonstrated interest would not hurt.</p>
<p>I think you’ve got a lot of assumptions that don’t necessarily apply universally in that formulation of yours. </p>
<p>It seems to me the real distinction is public vs. private, not reach vs. safety.</p>
<p>^ That is true. That’s why I only said “usually”. Many people pick in state public school as safety.
One can always look up the CDS for each school to see whether demonstrated interest to be important for a particular school or not.</p>
<p>This post has a list of the top 50 schools regarding “demonstrated interest” to be considered or not. That is only for reach schools:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14614990-post11.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14614990-post11.html</a>
Around half of the top 50 consider “demonstrated interest”.</p>