Agreed. But the above comment they made seemed to be their acknowledgement/absorption of that information.
Finally after 261 posts in this discussion. Hopefully OP will continue on their BSN quest and not change direction again. Wishing @napnemeanix the best on their future.
OP, I think that taking the Python class is a very good idea for you. Throughout all your hundreds of posts in your scores of threads regarding your lengthy community college career and your dreams of prestige and wealth, itâs become obvious that your thinking is very black and white, also unrealistic. You then justify your unrealistic thinking with insistent âI can do it, and no oneâs going to tell me otherwiseâ statements, or âIâm just made this way, thatâs how I think, and I wonât changeâ statements. These statements reveal a lot about your personality. Also, youâve clung in the past to declarations that you are a native speaker of English, when itâs clear from your writing that youâre not. Now you say that you are not a native speaker of English - which is fine! Itâs nothing to be ashamed of!
Based upon your many postings, I do not think that you are a good match for nursing. Virtually everyone who goes into nursing, even the men, are naturally compassionate, kind people who already were willing, natural family âcaregiversâ, even if not in a professional role. They go into it not because of the money, but because they feel called to become a nurse. Sure, some nurses wind up working for insurance companies, but they donât start out with that goal. And no one thinks, âIâll start out in nursing, so that it can fund my premed or predental classesâ, because nursing is a physically exhausting field, requires a personality type that is not usually the type who wants to become a doctor or dentist and has the high academic ability to succeed at that.
Your many postings reveal that you admire people who are highly respected professionals who earn a high income, and you want the same for yourself. Your motivation seems to be money and prestige, as opposed to career satisfaction. But the reality is that people who can make the grades to get into medical/dental school find community college to be very, very easy, and get straight Aâs at community college, without kicking it into high gear. Yes, itâs possible (but rare) to get into medical school having begun at community college, but a person would have had to get straight Aâs there, and then get very high grades in higher level courses at a 4 yr college, probably at the stateâs flagship U, rather than at a branch campus or less competitive state college campus. And the cost of medical/dental school is so overwhelming that most people are not obsessively hyperfocused on wringing every drop out of a Pell grant at a community college. Theyâre focused on getting into and getting through the requirements at a 4 yr college, likely their stateâs flagship U, and assembling all the other elements for an application to medical school.
From all youâve shown us, you have black and white thinking, you tend to get stuck on an idea and will not accept it when you are told by a myriad of advisors that this idea is not correct, is not based in reality. What you have revealed about your personality in your postings implies that you are not a good match for nursing. But you might be a very good match for programming, or computer science. You have managed to get through math and basic science classes at the community college, and a few months ago, you were talking about Physics. You seem to like classes that require logical, sequential, concrete, black and white thinking. Everything about you screams computer science!
So go ahead, take that Python class at the community college. If you like it, take more, and maybe transfer to the 4 yr college near you for computer science; better yet, for computer science and math. The job market is great, you donât need perfect English or fantastic interpersonal skills for it. The career caters to your strong points - your ability to work hard at something, your interest in math and concrete thinking fields (which is what I believe drew you towards Physics and Engineering). And it doesnât require that you have a stellar academic record or superior interpersonal skills.
This completely. As someone who works in nursing academia, Iâve never read so many personal statements that seem to conflict with being happily employed as a nurse. Not even for only a few years.
I would never counsel a student to become a nurse as a gateway to being a dentist.
OPâs posts and personal history of being almost 30, living at home, living off parents (and potentially friends) income while being unable to hold a long term job, and showing very inflexible thinking seem to scream twice exceptional student. From my experience with hundreds of nursing students, those types of persons struggle greatly with the social aspect of nursing.
While twice exceptional persons such as the character Shaun Murphy on The Good Doctor do exist, they are few and far between. And in reality, itâs a very difficult path. Patients donât want robots.
Donât forget the âsocialiteâ word very fancy
Computer science was as inviting as a headache, Iâve seen programming before and it made my head swim.
The whole point of me was to get a BS degree to be employed and stop this array of hunger for courses that were not getting me anywhere. In the past, I wanted every subject just like how Aristotle studied multiple subjects in BC.
If I go pursue a BS in Biology or Bio Chem or Chemistry, that wonât get me employed quickly, I would have to surrender another 4 years of schooling to get to a higher degree.
People do get jobs quickly after completing a BS in bio, biochem or Chem. Why would you have to wait and take 4 years of schooling?
Edited to add: Please work with a counselor to work on some of that inflexibility of ideas, inability to adapt to change, not seeing the forest for the trees. etc.
Iâll talk to a work counselor, to see what schematics they have to offer.
Speaking long periods of time, I would need to exercise at a gym for 5+ years in order to become physically fit for the nursing job, I feel out of shape.
Back from eating.
Okay, I forgot to mention. Even though if I were to get a biochem or chem BS degree. Thatâs not going to make me proficient in chemistry. I would need a couple of years of experience and practice in that branch of science. Intensive labs and hands-on experience as well.
Most jobs do require that degree but thereâs also testing to be conducted so the person lives and breathes that subject aka knowing their stuff very well.
Just cause I took chemistry in CC for 3 months does not make me an advanced or Ph.D. level in that subject, biochem/chem companies donât want scientists ending up mixing chemicals that they donât know of and causing an injury to themselves or other people around them. I would need to sign up for a chemistry mentor what ever you call it to teach me more, reading Ebooks and watching videos is not enough
I just hope users on this forum donât get this idea, they are thinking of me getting a BSN and waltzing into an ER/ED demanding $120 per hour.
Same thing if I finish my BSN courses, there is testing needed for NCLEX, and Iâm guessing some hospitals require a nurse to take another test to see if they have what it takes to handle this profession.
Wow, you are VERY fixated on CC for everything!
Get some therapeutic counseling because you canât seem to or wont follow a straight line of communication.
Did you read what I wrote and understand what I said?
Your comprehension of English is very weak. You should be worrying about not getting hired anywhere because you simply cannot follow a direct line of English dialogue.
Your statement:
My statement:
Your statement:
Youâve convoluted what I said in responding to your comment about getting a BACHELOR of SCIENCE degree.
You can get a job with a BSN. Please correct me where Iâve said that you could get a Bio, chem or Biochem job with only a CC.
For some weird reason, you are creating images of what each job is supposed to be and what the job requirements are, when youâve never even worked in nursing, bio, biochem or chem eng.
FWIW: My BIL has a Ph.D in Chemical Engineering. He doesnât âmix chemicalsâ. There is lots of R & D. Models are created on computers before experiments can get approvals and patent documentation is time consuming.
Seriously, get some therapeutic counseling.
You donât understand what people say and have been trying to tell you in nearly 300 posts.
Then, you make excuses when the posters challenge or correct your misinformation, you say well itâs:
- your poor English,
- your poor health,
- your fatigue,
- your not liking something.
I now understand why you are 30 years old and canât or wont progress.
I will also be blunt: People have tried to help you here, but they canât help you because you purposely donât feel the need to accept truthful answers. Youâve created the world in your own image. So, please, get some serious help in non-academic areas that require weekly sessions: personal therapeutic counseling.
You are a very complex person to understand sometimes, I never said you can get a BS degree in BIo-Chem or Chem at a community college.
Community Colleges only offer Associates degrees.
Universities offer Bachelorâs degrees such as biology or chemistry or bio-chem and other areas.
Plus I never said I was a native English speaker and Iâm very happy about that, other people pretend to be native speakers while theyâre not. My friend in the past told me just when you apply say youâre â100%â native English speaker, which I did not listen to him since lying on an app is bad, and will come back to haunt a person.
Iâm always 100% honest, English is not my cup of tea and it will never be, the faiths have deemed it like that, and nothing I can do to change it.
Would require me weeks just to form a 5-page essay, I was lucky enough to pass English 101 and 102 with a B grade at CC. Thatâs how far I can go with English.
Itâs true if something is not youâre passion, why work for it?
When a person pursues their passion, they never have to work a day in their life, my dentist friend told me that.
If a person doesnât like something, no one is forcing them to work that career.
Read your own words:
I have a Bachelors Degree, so I know what it takes, and how long it takes, and how to pay to graduate with a degree.
Please!
You are definitely not the expert in how to complete a bachelorâs degree: you donât appear to know how to get there and finish, and it doesnât appear like you are going to ever get there.
Five to 10 years of this is a waste.
Done with this farce.
Maybe I should have re-worded that correctly.
So I should just sit back and not pursue a bachelorâs degree? What am I going to do home all day, just sit and do nothing all my life
I wasnât saying I was an expert, I know what courses go with what degrees, I spent months reviewing course codesâŠ
This is the last time I will do a comparison.
For example, letâs say I wanted to pursue a BS in Biomedical Engineering
A person can take courses at their community college and transfer those courses to a university,
Now the 31 courses I have taken itâs been 2 years and 4 months for 31 courses in that short period of time.
Prove me wrong those community college courses would not easily transfer to that degree?
Plus it doesnât make logical sense I got all B grades in the 5 courses this fall semester, those courses are extremely intensive and require scrupulous reading and careful calculations. Especially Electricity & Magnetism, Even though my English is weak I still managed to pass and went above and beyond
Most of the time I am typing in bed donât have the time to use correct grammar, due to the back pain, sorry for the confusion.
None of us need to prove anything to you. Because there are people who earn a living evaluating transcripts and TELLING prospective students exactly which courses will transfer and which ones wonât. And several posters have BEGGED you to set up a meeting with one of these transfer counselors and get the exact data on where you stand as a prospective student.
For some reason which I cannot fathom, you would rather do âyour own researchâ than ask an expert. Reviewing âcourse codesâ is the first step. You seem to believe that this is enough. You will need to apply to a university, which will evaluate your transcript. It will be done by a human being in admissions.
You have taken 31 courses in aprox. 2 1/2 years. You donât seem to understand that you could be almost done with a Bachelorâs degree in that time. Why oh why you keep spinning your wheels?
There is nothing wrong with not being a native English speaker. There are tens of thousands of successful professionals in the US who can read and write perfectly grammatical English even if their spoken language has errors sometimes. As long as the verbal communication is easy to understand- the professional world is OK with that.
But your transcript if very difficult to follow. Gen Ed Math, Pre-Calc, College Algebra, Calc and Analytic Geometry, Linear Algebra- why are you not looking to transfer to a U THIS SEMESTER and quickly finish a BS in math???
And maybe you should broaden your horizons from just your dentist friend. I love my work- I truly do. But even I have awful days, or have to do obnoxious tasks that I cannot stand. Why? To keep my job, and generate a paycheck, thatâs why. You seem to think that even in a career that suits you there wonât be things you have to do which you find tiresome, boring, hideous, etc. Talking to a bunch of other people might help broaden your perspective on the work worldâŠ
Find I will talk to a transfer advisor, I only asked for opinions
Iâm not mad at anyone, I know everyone cares about me not using my Pell recklessly.
Yeah right a BS in math, Iâm already burned out after so many math courses in CC, no more math courses for me everâŠ
I meant fine