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<p>Stanford science >>>> Yale science</p>
<p>thanks Aston, no one’s debating that obviously…</p>
<p>According to 2010 US NEWS graduate school rankings:</p>
<p>biology–Stanford (#1, score 4.9), Yale (a 5-way tie #7, score 4.5)
Math – Stanford (#2, score 4.9), Yale (#7, score 4.5)
computer science --Stanford (#1, score 5.0), Yale (#20, score 3.7)
chemistry-- Stanford (#1, score 4.9), Yale (#12, 4.1)
Physics-- Stanford (#1, score 5.0), Yale (#11, 4.3)
geoscience–Stanford (#2, score 4.8), Yale (#11, 4.0)</p>
<p>To sum up, Stanford’s science program is A+. Yale’s science program is B, B+, or A-. So go to Stanford for sciences.</p>
<p>For engineering, the gap between Stanford and Yale is even bigger.</p>
<p>Check out the best science schools by US-NEWS
[Best</a> Science Schools - Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools]Best”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools)</p>
<p>Datalook, listen to what cmburns said: "no one’s debating that obviously… "</p>
<p>Stanford engineering/science is what the school is known for. That said, there are several issues with what you’ve just said:</p>
<p>The question was “Is it stupid to pick Yale over Stanford…?” NOT “Are Yale sciences stronger than Stanford?”</p>
<p>The right answer is, for almost all purposes, “no.” </p>
<p>The statistics you have cited are for the graduate level, not the undergraduate level. The differences between the 7th best and #1 in any given graduate field are not going to be readily apparent as an undergraduate. At the undergrad level, it is most important that you really enjoy the college and get a well balanced education. Choosing Stanford or Yale based on your major would be – for the most part – very very silly. There are a few exceptions (e.g. if you know want to get a Master’s in science while an undergrad or ONLY want to work in one field), but that is certainly not the norm. Moreover, Yale Med School placement is higher than Stanford placement – and there is likely less cutthroat competition in the sciences – so there are other factors to consider.</p>
<p>Bottom line: It is NOT stupid to pick Yale if you are leaning toward the sciences. It WOULD be stupid to pick Stanford if you like Yale a lot more.</p>
<p>Here is my answer to the question “Is it stupid to pick Yale over Stanford…?”. </p>
<p>It is NOT stupid. But it’s NOT a clever decision. Yale’s science is good. But Stanford’s science is super notched. You want to pick Yale over Stanford for science if you live in the east and want to stay near your parents, or you are just afraid of the earth-quake in California.</p>
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<p>Where is the official link to back up this? I would love to find the med school placement rates for Stanford and Yale, in particular, the placement rates to the nation’s top med schools such as Harvard, UCSF, Johns-Hopkins, Washington, Penn, Stanford, Duke, Yale, and etc.</p>
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Is this what you are looking for? I am not sure how old the article on this link but I hope it proves useful:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf[/url]”>http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf</a></p>
<p>However, correct me if I’m wrong, but I do not believe the list is talking specifically about medical schools.</p>
<p>In response to a post above… i wouldn’t worry about funding. Yale has an embarrassment of funding for science research. I’d say it’s the best feature of being a science major here. </p>
<p>I didn’t even have to try to get $3000 for research last summer.</p>
<p>Even in this economic crisis, Yale still has that much funding for science research for undergrads? I find that somewhat hard to believe. (Maybe this year it does, but next year, probably not…)</p>
<p>^^ I got $3500 for this summer. I’m not even on financial aid. But I will admit that it is for the required research component for my class titled “Rainforest Expedition and Lab.” It’s a class with $1,000,000 funding over 4 years; 14 other students and I received an all expenses paid two-week trip to Ecuador and the Amazon Rainforest to collect indigenous plants. We’re now isolating the endophytes from them and characterizing bioactivity for potentially useful compounds. We’re here over the summer on Yale’s tab, continuing with this research and collaborating with other labs. </p>
<p>There’s an ornithology class that goes to Ecuador as well on Yale’s tab; there’s a Geophysics class that goes to Sicily to study plate tectonics, and they also have fully funded research over the summer. And let’s not forget to mention the guaranteed summer funding for all participants in the Yale Research programs STARS and Perspectives on Science. It just doesn’t end.</p>
<p>Oh, and two girls on my floor (one doing geophysics research on sea floor spreading and the other doing research on Tourette Syndrome), neither of whom is in an organized research program, each got $4000 through Yale fellowships.</p>
<p>And this can all be explained by the simple fact that Yale is the second richest academic institution. $$ = Opportunity.</p>
<p>Yes, that’s what it is now, because the budget for this year was determined last year. But the budget for next year will at best allocate the same amount for undergraduate research, though if it has an “embarrassment of funding,” it will probably go down.</p>
<p>^^ If that is true at Yale, then it is true at all the schools, due to all endowments losing a lot of money. Yale, I believe, lost around 25%, Harvard 30%, etc. So, it’s all relative.</p>
<p>Yale is ranked 76th-107th in engineering in the world this year. But the overall university is ranked 11th worldwide so I think you get a good general undergrad education- peers at more technology-focused schools will probably be better engineers but you will likely receive more exposure to the liberal arts (which is the consensus view anyway)</p>
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<p>76-107 80 Michigan State Univ USA 40 45 79 33<br>
76-107 305-402 Pohang Univ Sci & Tech South Korea 20 44 78<br>
76-107 203-304 Shanghai Jiao Tong Univ China 0 89 56<br>
76-107 56 Tech Univ Munich Germany 28 45 69<br>
76-107 102-150 Univ Alberta Canada 28 57 73 39<br>
76-107 62 Univ Bristol UK 28 38 84<br>
76-107 102-150 Univ California - Riverside USA 33 31 90 37<br>
76-107 102-150 Univ Louvain Belgium 20 38 87<br>
76-107 151-202 Univ Montreal Canada 20 51 75 42<br>
76-107 305-402 Univ Naples Federico II Italy 20 44 80<br>
76-107 151-202 Univ New South Wales Australia 20 54 75<br>
76-107 102-150 Univ Roma - La Sapienza Italy 20 47 75<br>
76-107 151-202 Univ Southampton UK 28 50 70<br>
76-107 93 Univ Utah USA 28 38 87 42<br>
76-107 42 Univ Utrecht Netherlands 35 33 79<br>
76-107 151-202 Univ Waterloo Canada 35 58 72 32<br>
76-107 66 Uppsala Univ Sweden 28 37 80<br>
76-107 11 Yale Univ USA 45 30 92 23<br>
76-107 203-304 Zhejiang Univ China 0 78 67</p>
<p>Don’t those stats simply imply that Yale’s engineering is subpar compared to its overall rankings? One would assume that someone who’s overall ranking of 11 is so much higher than the overall rankings of some of these peers to be better overall…and not so week in any given field!</p>
<p>That said, what IS Yale’s weakest field?</p>
<p>“If that is true at Yale, then it is true at all the schools, due to all endowments losing a lot of money. Yale, I believe, lost around 25%, Harvard 30%, etc. So, it’s all relative.”</p>
<p>No. Stanford is not cutting down undergraduate research funding. If Yale has an “embarrassment of funding” for it, then I could see them cutting it down.</p>
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<p>Engineering, lol.</p>
<p>Also, President Levin has made no mention of cuts on undergraduate research funding, while he has notified us of other ways the university is saving money (laying off 300 staff, reducing food at meetings, etc.) So right now, it looks like Yale’s “embarrassment of funding” is going to stay right where it is.</p>