<p>Oh and drummerdude_07, get over yourself. You have no idea of what you're talking about. In fact, as George W. Bush so sagaciously pointed out, it is the kids that are getting the lower grades at the ivies who are making the big bucks. Moreover, your comments make no sense. "just a smaller percentage of kids from non ivies make a lot of money." Think about the proportion between Ivy league schools, AND ALL the other schools in the country. </p>
<p>wow</p>
<p>what a ****ty post.</p>
<p>Also: Barnard is technically not an Ivy.</p>
<p>ummm no...Barnard is part of Columbia, which is an Ivy. That's like saying Radcliffe isnt an ivy. Dont try to tell me my mom didnt go to an Ivy school....</p>
<p>well, Barnard is technically a separate school... Columbia University is the Ivy League School and Barnard is simply affiliated with the university (not necessarily a part of the university).</p>
<p>and Radcliffe doesn't exist anymore... it has been merged with Harvard...</p>
<p>but yeah, i'm not sure whether or not Barnard is an ivy...</p>
<p>Calling Barnard a non ivy is idiotic. It's an entity of Columbia.</p>
<p>It's not.
Columbia degrees and Barnard degrees are different.</p>
<p>In fact, there is much tension in Columbia about Barnard because they feel as though some students just shoot for Barnard to have a better chance at admission to Columbia education, because Barnard is less selective than Columbia is. </p>
<p>Still, great school. Not so much Ivy-caliber, but still, a great great school.</p>
<p>If you want a non-Ivy which IS an Ivy-caliber, try stanford, duke, MIT, williams, amherst and so on.</p>
<p>I personally think Barnard = Columbia equation that you seem to present is absurd.</p>
<p>Not really. My moms degree is foremost from Columbia. Barnard is just the seperate school she attended. Believe what you want, because i honestly dont care, but my mom went to an Ivy school.</p>
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how is your mom's degree from Columbia, if she went to Barnard? did she take a lot of classes at Columbia? I don't really know how the whole Columbia/Barnard or Harvard/MIT thing works. I mean, can a person sign up for as many classes as they want at the other campus?</p>
<p>She took classes at both AFAIK. I'm pretty sure her degree is from Columbia.</p>
<p>okay then, that's interesting. i have no idea how any of this works, but if her degree is from columbia then she went to an ivy league school.</p>
<p>It's all a matter of opinion.</p>
<p>i do know that on barnard's degree it does say columbia somewhere. however, i agree with hotpiece that barnard is not columbia, and, therefore, is not an ivy.</p>
<p>jPod, did your mom go to Barnard before Columbia was made co-ed?</p>
<p>O wow. I just read they merged in the 80's. My mom graduated before the 80's. So her degree is def. from Columbia.</p>
<p>okay, then it makes sense now. there was no way your mom could even go to columbia so i guess her going to Barnard may in fact be an Ivy education.</p>
<p>I win!!!!!!!!! =D</p>
<p>you guys should bone up on your latin: post hoc ergo propter hoc. "After it therefore because of it." It's a famous logical fallacy. Just because everyone you know who went to any Ivy is rich and successful does not mean it's BECAUSE they went to an Ivy. It comes down to the person.</p>
<p>More like we should bone up on our intro logic. Knowing logical fallacies has nothing to do with knowing Latin.</p>
<p>jPoD: even if your mother did graduate before the two schools merged, I still don't think it counts as attending an Ivy League...</p>
<p>I understand what you mean, because Barnard Degree comes with Columbia written on it. I know what this is.</p>
<p>For grads from Columbia says</p>
<p>Columbia College, Columbia University.</p>
<p>For grads from Barnard it says</p>
<p>Barnard College, Columbia University.</p>
<p>They're different, and while many who don't understand the situation just perceive it to be a Columbia degree, I'm afraid it's not exactly that.</p>
<p>jPoD: even if your mother did graduate before the two schools merged, I still don't think it counts as attending an Ivy League...</p>
<p>Believe what you want chief.</p>