<p>annasdad - source? Just look up Rutger graduate’s employment rate vs Princeton. I am from NE and I also do recruiting for my firm sometimes, I know what schools they cut off from their recruiting list because they needed fewer entry level employees and they didn’t have as much travel budget.</p>
<p>IOW - anecdotal, from an anonymous poster on the Internet.</p>
<p>My SIL’s experience is anecdotal, but Rutgers vs Princeton, hard cold numbers.</p>
<p>Is there evidence that, as you claim, “When time gets worse, ‘better known’ college graduates will have a better chance of getting the first job;” and are those data corrected for the entry-level differences between Rutgers and Princeton students?</p>
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Are you statistician or something? Sometimes common sense is enough…</p>
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What are you talking about? The data is for each graduating class. What is “entry-level differences.”</p>
<p>jasonleb1 is correct, sometimes common sense is enough.</p>
<p>Rutgers middle 50% ACT: 25-30
Princeton: 31-25</p>
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<p>Hardly.</p>
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<p>Not when it masquerades as nonsense.</p>
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It’s not nonsense. Who’s going to get the professorship - the 3.9 english major from Rutgers or the 3.9 english major from Harvard? My money’s on Harvard.</p>
<p>I don’t understand where this conversation is heading to but I have to disagree one statement aobut annasdad and agree to jasonleb1</p>
<p>annasdad: What university you go to does play a factor in job market, especially if you are just entering the job market for the first time. My dad told me that he was in a similar situation but because the employer recognized where he majored from, he was given the job. </p>
<p>I guess employers understand that if you go to a good university (state or any top like harvard or Mit) they understand that you have the potential of handling difficult challenges.</p>
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<p>Ahh, by entry-level differences you are saying Princeton students have higher test scores and GPA, an employer could comfortably assume a Princeton graduate would be “smarter” than a Rutgers graduate. It is implying employers do use schools’ selectivity as a filter for them.</p>
<p>“Professorships” generally turn on graduate school performance, not on where you somebody went to undergrad. And “professorships” are a vanishingly small percentage of the total employment picture.</p>
<p>Just common sense.</p>
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<p>If you don’t have much job experience and starting work first time, grades for undergrad and grad school matters.</p>
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<p>You are making the common mistake that prestige-mongers always make: because school A is more selective than school B, school A provides a given student with a better chance at employment (to say nothing of other factors in life) than does school B. There’s no evidence to support that.</p>
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<p>Employers understand that if you have a good record at any reputable university that you have the potential of handling difficult challenges.</p>
<p>You are the one who brought up test scores. I am just trying to figure what the heck you are talking about “entry-leve” differences. Just trying to follow your logic.</p>
<p>I am not making a mistake about chance at employment between schools - check out Princeton vs Rutgers. Princeton graduates also make more money later on in life. I am a number cruncher, and I have checke out those stats.</p>
<p>You may be a number cruncher, but you clearly do not understand the concept that when you start with a better crop of students, it’s likely you’re going to see better results, no matter what school they go to. Frankly, I do not have time to continue to try to explain that to you.</p>
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<p>I’m not going to answer, because I don’t know the answer - and unlike some posters hereabouts, I try not to show my ignorance by pontificating on matters about which I am clueless.</p>
<p>I’m sure someone else can help you.</p>
<p>If a college has a better crop of students, wouldn’t employers recognize that and wouldn’t they want to hire those graduates over another school? It is not because you don’t have time to try to explain, it is because you have no idea what you are trying to say.</p>
<p>I noticed a few things from having my son go to a much higher-level college than I did. First of all, he works monstrously hard and the level of the work is very, very high. Second, he gets opportunities from his professors to do hands-on, career-building kind of work that I never did (in part because of the close relationships he was able to build). Third, his friends are extremely bright and challenge him to learn new things as well. Fourth, the school has a great alumni network that will reach out to new grads to help them get jobs because they know of the rigorous training that students at this school get.</p>