<p>mjmay - I also know someone (not my child) who scored 35 on the ACT, was valedictorian of their high school, over 4.0 gpa, took many advanced math classes and received only the Regents (which all in-state freshmen receive = $1500). At parent orientation recently we were told by a university representative that out of approx. 5,000 incoming freshman this year, UM gave out approx. 700 merit scholarships. I agree that there are so many outstanding students that it would be impossible to give $ to all who are deserving.</p>
<p>That’s why I decided to get a new advisor from the Medical School because LSA advising is garbage. Also let me not get started on the LSA career center. It’s just so useless. I’m taking my resume to get revised later this summer. It better be worthwhile or else I’m never going back there again.</p>
<p>i doubt there are 500 kids in the incoming class that have already started upper division work in their major and are half way into their minor</p>
<p>mjmay, you may doubt it, but it is a fact. The top 10% of incoming freshman at Michigan are ridiculously well qualified. And the university cannot give all of its merit scholarships to the most advanced students. Some of those scholarships have to go to students according to other criteria, such as background and academic/intellectual interests.</p>
<p>Haven’t been reading the whole thread, but it seems there’s been general complaints about advising in the last few pages.</p>
<p>I’m curious as to what you experienced to have that opinion, specifically what you all think advisers should or shouldn’t do.</p>
<p>For context, I’m a recent grad who also recently met with many advisers, and I thought my sessions were at least somewhat informative. But maybe I was just lucky?</p>
<p>i kno that the top 10% is great…but not THAT great. they may all have the high scores but it is exceptional to be coming in with so much credit that you can graduate in 2 years. i mean, he took calc in 8th grade</p>
<p>he’d be at MIT if it didn’t cost so much</p>
<p>So many people underestimate the University of Michigan and the quality of some of it’s undergraduates. I agree with Alexandre though. Michigan is such a great option for instate students that many highly qualified students just decide to go to Michigan. Michigan in the New Jersey area is also looked upon as a superb institution. I’ve certainly encountered a fair number of students who had a crazy amount of credit at Michigan.</p>
<p>Advising sucks because they don’t tell you anything new. They just give you the same old advice that might have worked for another student but won’t work for you. Advising should be tailored to the specific students needs and not to the general population of students.</p>
<p>Also to mjmay7. You keep referring to your friends as if they are the most qualified individuals on the planet. There are many more qualified individuals that choose to attend Michigan than you think or know.</p>
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<p>i kno that UofM is an exceptional place and that many qualified people attend. i just don’t know what else the people who got merit did to get them over my friend</p>
<p>Does anyone really know the number of people who get significant merit aid (2K a year doesn’t mean much when tuition is 18K+ a year)? No one I have met (or no one has told me) has gotten merit aid. I think the number is a LOT lower than 500, unless someone has a source beyond someone advertising the university with no repercussions for lying.</p>
<p>My son did receive a fairly significant departmental scholarship (freshman - engineering). After hearing the scholarship numbers at orientation, we are even more thankful.</p>
<p>"I agree that I am no better than anyone else, which is why I refuse to judge an entire student body as you do with such ease. Judging an entire student body of 40,000 to be arrogant is not worth responding to. Students at the University are no more arrogant than students at any other peer institution. My only other experience was Cornell, and I did not see a difference in attitude between those two universities. " </p>
<p>This is very true, but in some aspects, they ARE more arrogant than students/teachers at any other peer institution. </p>
<p>From my limited experience in living on college campuses with my dad, moving around a bit as he is a college professor (currently living near AA), its easy to see that there’s a ton of pride surrounding the school compared to other campuses ive lived on. It is a great institution. However, the most vocal people usually make the lasting impressions in my mind, and I’ve heard so many vocal people in the past few years it makes me sick. Even at orientation, they made borderline-pompous speeches. If it wasn’t in-state I 100% would not even had considered applying (not solely because of this, but this coupled with prices haha). Again, I don’t particularly think that the entire student body is like this, or that there are any more arrogant people there than any other random institution of similar caliber. I do however, believe that there are way more arrogant people that will be in your face about it. They live and breathe the school in a way that’s sort of “off-putting” to say the least.</p>
<p>chaobro, I have never heard a legitimate source claim that Michigan students or faculty are magically more arrogant than students or faculty at other similar universities. Perhaps you are referring to school pride, but that is not the same thing. I agree that among elite institutions, Michigan tends to have more school pride and school spirit.</p>
<p>I am not an expert on the subject, but I am a life-long resident of the state of Michigan. My experience has been that the most pompous, in-your-face types are not UMich students or grads. The most obnoxious, pro-Michigan, “anti-everything-else” people have no real association with the university (have not graduated from or even attended UMich). I find most UMich grads have a quieter sense of pride than do the UM fans who are merely that - fans.</p>
<p>^i can totally corroborate this.</p>
<p>Is Michigan weak in any way?
financial aid?</p>
<p>Who is the professor in the econometrics song?</p>
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<p>His name is Gary Solon. He was my professor when I was at Michigan back in the 90s. Unfortunately, he left Michigan and is now teaching at Michigan State. Ouch!!!</p>
<p>The University of Michigan is the greatest University of the World.</p>
<p>IMO, UCLA and Berkeley have a better reputation than Umich.</p>
<p>Good for them. This thread does not claim that Michigan has a stronger reputation than any university in particular, so I am not sure your comment belongs.</p>