Is Michigan weak in any way?

<p>It appears you might be a bit cocky yourself takeuproot. Michigan owes you nothing, even with your obviously stellar backround. Still with a full ride to Yale, I would say your choice is easy. Good luck to you in all of your future endevours. :-)</p>

<p>takeuproot, do not confuse the admissions office policies and process with arrogance or indifference. In fact, most people agree that the admissions office is very responsive, even if their process is annoying and outdated. Not that it matters, since a full ride from Yale (I did not even realize Yale offered full rides, only need based grants) cannot be declined, so Michigan is out anyway.</p>

<p>takeuproot’s comments in a nutshell:</p>

<p>“waaaahhh, they didn’t worship me or my perfect GPA, how dare they!!” ;)</p>

<p>takeuproot…here’s hoping you have better luck on your SECOND post ever! Your stats suggest you should show a bit more savvy…or observe the scene for a while before walking in with your briefcase and telling the CEO how your interview is going to be conducted.</p>

<p>When do you guys think Michigan will hit around a 20% acceptance rate? If it does, I think it’ll be regarded extremely highly among the general public…</p>

<p>“Once the full effect of joining the common app is felt, Michigan’s acceptance rate will likely be under 20%.”</p>

<p>Sorry didn’t see this post about a sub-20 acceptance rate. Alexandre, would you say in another 2-3 years Michigan would achieve a sub-20 acceptance rate?</p>

<p>It is impossible to predict when, or even if, Michigan’s admit rate will drop to 20%. Some are saying that Michigan received 55,000 applicants this year. If that is true, Michigan’s acceptance rate dropped from over 50% to under 30% in three years! Dropping from under 30% to 20% should not take much longer than 3 years. I am guessing a 20% admit rate for Michigan bicentennial.</p>

<p>That being said, the general public, as well as most adults, don’t really pay too much attention to admit rates. It is mainly overly competitive teens that care.</p>

<p>I don’t know if it’s mentioned yet, but I have to add the desks in most rooms and pitiful. I can’t imagine if overweight, there’s barely any space to put a single book let alone laptop or write anything. The seats are also painful and awkward. It’s just pathetic for $50k/yr.</p>

<p>Also the filters at the drinking fountains never get replaced unless you nag them. It’s even on the platforms of many student government candidates! People are getting sick and they’re just going to sue if it continues.</p>

<p>In regards to premedical studies, my son is deciding between UM, WUSTL and Johns Hopkins. I really think he is leaning towards UM, but he feels he may get to know professors easier at the latter two. I know that UM has about 300 students a year apply for medical school and that almost 50 a year get into UM. Does anyone know how well the other students fare? (do they tend to go for the bigger name med schools that are known for research, or do they consider schools with a more primary care focus? How does UM’s MCAT scores compare to the other two schools? We have 30 days for son to make a decision, so any help is appreciated.</p>

<p>PsychoDad10, more like 800 Michigan students/alumni apply to medical school each year. I think about 450 of them succeed in getting to a single medical program and I’m guessing about 100 of them go to “elite top 25” medical schools each year.</p>

<p>Michigan advising should just discourage unqualified candidates from applying to medical school. That way Michigan can act like most private elites who like to brag about how high their acceptance rates are :-)</p>

<p>Psychodad, last year, more than 50 Michigan students/alumni were admitted at Michigan Medical school. 61 enrolled, so obviously more than 61 were admitted. It is hard to tell how many exactly are admitted into top 25 Medical schools, but from what I have seen, it would appear that roughly 2-4 Michigan students/alumni enroll in top medical schools annually, so I would say 50-60 enroll in Michigan Medical school and an additional 50-60 enroll in other top medical schools annually.</p>

<p>It should be noted that many of Michigan students/alumni who apply to Medical school really never had much of a chance. Over a quarter of the applicants had sub 3.4 GPAs. The acceptance rate into medical school for Michigan students/alumni with 3.6+ GPAs is over 80%.</p>

<p>Alexandre- as a physician, it’s always nice to see someone backing up posts with data. Thanks for your posts. My son has 28 days to make a decision- I think I’m more confused than he is- but my wife and I already told him that we can gather as much data as possible- in the end, the decision is 100% his.</p>

<p>If you like data backing posts, here’s the link that backs the data. ;)</p>

<p>[2011</a> Medical School Application Statistics | Career Center](<a href=“http://careercenter.umich.edu/article/med/2011-medical-school-application-statistics]2011”>http://careercenter.umich.edu/article/med/2011-medical-school-application-statistics)</p>

<p>And here are links that show how many Michigan students/alums have enrolled in Michigan Medical school in the last 4 years (scroll down to the lower half of the page):</p>

<p>[University</a> of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day<a href=“61”>/url</a>
[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/admissions/apply/profiles/profiles_2011.html]University”&gt;University of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day]University</a> of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day<a href=“49”>/url</a>
[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/admissions/apply/profiles/profiles_2010.html]University”&gt;University of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day]University</a> of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day<a href=“50”>/url</a>
[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/admissions/apply/profiles/profiles_2009.html]University”&gt;University of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day]University</a> of Michigan Medical School :: Admissions :: Interview Day<a href=“51”>/url</a></p>

<p>There are currently 211 Michigan graduates enrolled in Michigan Medical school.</p>

<p>According to the latest data published by JHU Medical School, there were 12 Michigan alums enrolled in Johns Hopkins Medical School. Only JHU, Yale, Harvard and Stanford had significantly more. Cal and Cornell had slightly more. Columbia, Dartmouth, Duke, MIT, Princeton, University of Maryland-College Park, University of Pennsylvania and UVa had roughly the same.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/bin/u/p/SOMCatalog0910.pdf[/url]”>http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/bin/u/p/SOMCatalog0910.pdf](<a href=“http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/admissions/apply/profiles.html]University”>http://www.med.umich.edu/medschool/admissions/apply/profiles.html)</a> (pages 460-461)</p>

<p>Finally, from 1995-2011, Michigan has enrolled 48 graduates at the Washington University-Lat Louis Medical School. Only WUSTL, Harvard, Duke and Stanford enrolled more. Brown, Cal, Cornell, JHU, MIT, Northwestern, Princeton, UCLA, University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign, University of Pennsylvania and Yale did as well. </p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://medadmissions.wustl.edu/HowtoApply/selectionprocess/Pages/WhoChoosesWU.aspx]Who”&gt;http://medadmissions.wustl.edu/HowtoApply/selectionprocess/Pages/WhoChoosesWU.aspx]Who</a> Chooses WU<a href=“click%20on” title=“Undergraduate Institutions Represented”>/url</a></p>

<p>Suffice it to say, Michigan premeds do well.</p>

<p>Hey Alexandre, I felt the need to say that I have read through all 53 pages of this thread (probably due to some senioritis) and have found this whole thing very interesting. I wanted to ask you a few questions as I am an OOS coming in for the fall, and you seem like the resident Michigan expert. I’m entering as a bio pre-med, and I was wondering if you have any idea as to the number of LSA students forced to live on north campus (and if north campus is as much of a weakness as it is made out to be). I was also wondering if you think that Michigan will continue to see this massive influx of apps and qualified applicants. Its funny reading/comparing the posts in 2004 when this thread was created to now… haha and crazy to think that I was nine when this was started. Anyways, I appreciate any responses/advice for incoming OOSers. Also, I’m pumped for the game on saturday. GO BLUE!</p>

<p>I also wanted to know if you thought it was worth attending campus day even if I visited last year as a junior. Thanks!</p>

<p>Unfortunately, there are many freshmen who are pretty much forced to live in North Campus. I am not sure about the number, but I would guestimate over a third. Living in North Campus is definitely a drag for many freshmen, but it is not as bad as people make it out to be, particularly for Bursley residents. </p>

<p>The number of qualified applicants could continue to grow at a 20% annually for several more years, or it may increase at a slower rate 3%-7%. The growth in the applicant pool depends on several factors. However, Michigan is very popular and one of the reasons why many top students did not apply or wish to attend was its high acceptance rate (over 50% for many years). With its acceptance rate likely to be in the 30% range this year, I think you will continue seeing a surge in the applicant pool. I anticipate 75,000-80,000 applicants by 2017.</p>

<p>Attending campus day is not necessary it if you have already visited campus. Orientation should be more than enough. Of course, if you have time and the resources, attending campus day cannot hurt.</p>

<p>Ross School of Business need to improve their application process for preferred admission. Decisions were supposed to come out 4/1, but instead it appears many were told “no decision yet, you will here from us by the end of April”</p>

<p>Well, I hope they can decide by the end of April as May 1 is commitment date! Daughter applied in October and still dosen’t know anything. Five months to still not make yes/no decisions on 1900 applications is amateurish. If the answer is no, just tell people so they can move on and make other plans.</p>

<p>Agreed. This wait is a joke. They are waiting to have a few of their preferred tell them no before committing to the second choice students. Who would most likely be a first rounder at any other public university or college.</p>

<p>What would happen if 70% of their preferred declined April 28th and then where would they find students after the May 1 commit date?</p>

<p>Come on Michigan. Do the right thing.</p>

<p>Tonight reminded me of one weakness of Michigan: not enough live shows. The Ben Folds concert tonight was phenomenal.</p>