<p>lesdia, seriously here</p>
<p>the average Joe doesn’t even know that Duke has a Med School and the biggest name attached to Georgetown for the average Joe is Patrick Ewing.</p>
<p>For the average Joe, Duke and Georgetown are known because of their basketball, just like Notre Dame and USC are known to the average Joe for their football.</p>
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<p>“It’s also just a school of finance. Why single that out? I mean, suppose that you already are independently wealthy. Stinking rich. Imagine that your family name is so illustrious that YOU are the person everyone is eager to impress. Under those conditions, would you still even want your children to go to college? I would. I’d want them to make their own choices, but my own preference would not be to send them to Wharton to learn how to count the family money. We’d have people for that.”</p>
<p>So why did Donald Trump send his kids to Wharton?</p>
<p>Ivana trump actually went to Georgetown first, then ditched it for a superior school lol.</p>
<p>Alsp Trump went to Penn I think</p>
<p>^I’m strongly guessing that all of those schools made HUGE attempts to recruit Trump’s kids. Talk about developmental admits. </p>
<p>Additionally, if Trump’s kids go to Wharton, then posters like the above will think it is because Wharton MUST be the best.</p>
<p>I doubt very much that Wharton recruited Ivanka Trump. Her name may have helped her get accepted but her brains and work ethic got her through. She had to do the same work as everyone else to graduate. Ivanka Trump went to Wharton because Donald Trump thinks it’s the best.</p>
<p>@JohnAdams12: I don’t know about Georgetown, but when I mentioned to my neighbours that I was off to Duke before Caltech’s waitlist, the first thing they all asked me was if I was gonna do medical studies.</p>
<p>Almost everyone I talked to here know Duke for its basketball, med school, and great academics. They, even the jocks, know that Duke is special because not only is it good in sports, but its also excellent in academics.</p>
<p>Donald himself went to Wharton, then Don Jr and Ivanka followed his footsteps. Doubt there was any recruiting needed. And from what I can tell, both kids were easily smart enough to get in regardless of their name.</p>
<p>I go to Columbia, two of my best friends from high school go to Princeton. I get the feeling that Princeton is a hair more difficult, but that the academic experience as a whole is completely comparable, i.e., if you take ten Columbia students and 10 Princeton students, on average, they will have received an equal quality of education. Obviously, the quality of the academic experience depends on the student, what department or field he/she is interested in, etc., but I would say that overall, the average Brown grad and the average Harvard grad will have had relatively equal success in attaining whatever intellectual/academic goals one can/should attain in college. I think the main difference is that HYPSM have a little more money to spend on students for random things like the recording studio in the basement of that one residential college at Yale. All that said, I go to Columbia, and I think it’s awesome, so I’m somewhat biased.</p>
<p>^You’re right, but I think its all psychological. A Harvard grad knows his alma matter is statistically superior to a Dartmouth grad’s. The Harvard-man won’t openly say it, but everyone knows it in his mind.</p>
<p>HYP = (over)HYPed.</p>
<p>John117, first a warm congratulations on the CalTech admit, a school that could hold its own with any of the HYPSM. Your parents and relatives and school officials should be extremely proud.</p>
<p>second, by definition, the average Joe would never ask about, or be knowledgeable about, the medical studies of a college located across the country. If anything, other than Duke’s basketball, the average joe would, at the most, say “I hear smart kids go to Duke”, but that is about it.</p>
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<p>^ Oddly, I agree with JohnAdams12’s statement.</p>
<p>The only gap is that HYPSM schools are overrated. Sure, they have nobel laureate faculty members, but they are terrible teachers and all of the TAs teach anyway. They are ridiculously expensive and do not provide the confidence and preparation necessary to survive in this world; the students already enter the school with it. Just read “Harvard Schmarvard”, written by a Harvard alum.</p>
<p>well, if what you folks care about is sounding like the smartest person in the room at a cocktail party…
Your job interviewer, if you went to these schools, is going to have heard about your school. He/she is going to respect your diploma. The reason you people care so much about the difference between HYP and a “lower ivy” is obvious. You want to have that sense of superiority over everyone else.</p>
<p>Seriously, this is ridiculous guys. </p>
<p>Moreover, if we’re looking at a more common academic focus than Egyptology, like, say, engineering, Cornell beats all the other Ivies. </p>
<p>I know someone who was naive enough to choose Columbia Engineering over Cornell Engineering for the sake of the name ‘Columbia.’ It’s absolutely ridiculous</p>
<p>IBfoot, now that would depend on which engineering department, don’t you think?</p>
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<p>Of course, the “here” is dependent upon where the student lives, and reputations of colleges, even the top ones, are mostly regional. All the Californians overhype Berkeley and all the East Coasters overhype the Ivies and all the Southerns overhype Duke and Vandy and all the midwesterners overhype Northwestern. But, it doesn’t stop half of you from thinking that your neighborhoods reflect everyone in the world.</p>
<p>^You can’t seriously call Wharton a “lower Ivy”</p>
<p>You’re right. Since when was “Wharton” a stand alone ivy league school?
I call Penn a lower Ivy.</p>
<p>My Speech and Debate coach who went to harvard says as a student she could not leave her blinds open in her windows because so many tourists would try to go up to the window and take pictures of her and her room thinking it was some magical paradise and she was some sort of deity.</p>
<p>People would respect Wharton alot more, and it would be alot more well known if it was at a more prestigious university, just sayin’</p>