<p>I think most of those posts meant that coaches won’t respond back before September 1st of the athlete’s junior year (which is accurate). After that date, they do actively send out emails with school info and respond to emails.</p>
<p>For most sports coaches can email you after Sept 1st of your junior year. They can not call you until after July 1st between Jr and Sr year. There are a handful of sports that have different dates but track is not one of those. You can call the coaches all you want and visit campus on your own dime and talk to coaches there all you want before then, with the exception of a couple weeks during the year.</p>
<p>My son is a sophomore, and I was told that July 1 BEFORE his junior year he could get contacted by coaches directly. I have never heard of July 1 AFTER junior year previously, and in fact was told by admissions at the Ivy my son is targeting that decisions are usually made by that point, and the application process becomes moot.</p>
<p>rhandco–what sport. Most are July after junior year–there are some that are earlier though.</p>
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<p>Also, I think you have been told incorrect information or misunderstood what was said-Ivy applications are ALWAYS important. They will not commit to you without GPA/Test scores and an application in hand.</p>
<p>Prior to July 1 after junior year coaches might be making decisions on which applicants they want to support, but at that point the applications aren’t even available to be completed by the applicants. In July the application process hasn’t even begun.</p>
<p>I think the earliest the process can be considered “done” would be in the case of an applicant who sends a very early application and the coach submits supporting materials to admissions early in the cycle. This applicant might get a likely letter as early as October 1st.</p>
<p>Rhandco- This is from the NCAA 2011-2012 Division 1 manual</p>
<p>13.1.1.1 Time Period for Off-Campus Contacts—General Rule.</p>
<p>Off-campus recruiting contacts shall not be made with an individual (or his or her relatives or legal guardians) before July 1 following the completion of his or her junior year in high school (July 7 after the junior year in high school in women’s ice hockey and July15 after the junior year in high school in women’s gymnastics), or the opening day of classes of his or her senior year in high school (as designated by the high school), whichever is earlier. U.S. service academy exceptions to this provision are set forth in Bylaw 13.16.1.</p>
<p>13.1.3.1 Time Period for Telephone Calls—General Rule.</p>
<p>Telephone calls to an individual (or his or her relatives or legal guardians) may not be made before July 1 following the completion of his or her junior year in high school (subject to the exceptions below), or the opening day of classes of his or her senior year in high school (as designated by the high school), whichever is earlier; thereafter, staff members shall not make such telephone calls more than once per week. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 7/1/91, 1/16/93, 1/9/96 effective 8/1/96, 4/22/98, 4/26/01, 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05, 1/9/06, 6/13/08, 1/15/11)</p>
<p>13.1.3.1.1 Exception—Baseball, Cross Country/Track and Field, Men’s Lacrosse, Women’s Lacrosse, Women’s Sand Volleyball, Softball and Women’s Volleyball. In baseball, cross country/track and field, men’s lacrosse, women’s lacrosse, women’s sand volleyball, softball and women’s volleyball, telephone calls to an individual (or his or her relatives or legal guardians) may not be made before July 1 following the completion of his or her junior year in high school, or the opening day of classes of his or her senior year in high school (as designated by the high school), whichever is earlier. Thereafter, such telephone calls shall be limited to once per week outside a contact period, but may be made at the institution’s discretion during a contact period. (Adopted: 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10, 1/15/11, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)</p>
<p>13.1.3.1.2 Exception—Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, one telephone call to an individual (or the individual’s relatives or legal guardians) may be made from April 15 through May 31 of the individual’s junior year in high school. Additional telephone calls to an individual (or the individual’s relatives or legalguardians) may not be made before September 1 of the beginning of the individual’s senior year in high school. Thereafter, such telephone contact is limited to once per week outside a contact period, but may be made at the institution’s discretion during a contact period. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 7/1/91, 1/16/93, 1/11/94 effective 3/15/94, 1/10/95, 1/14/97 effective 5/1/97, 10/28/97, 1/8/07)</p>
<p>13.1.3.1.3 Exception—Men’s Basketball. In men’s basketball, an institution is permitted to make onetelephone call per month to an individual (or the individual’s relatives or legal guardians) on or after June 15 of the individual’s sophomore year in high school through July 31 of the individual’s junior year in high school. Thereafter, outside a contact period, an institution is permitted to make two telephone calls per week to an individual (or the individual’s relatives or legal guardians) beginning August 1 prior to the individual’s senior year in high school. Outside a contact period, an institution is permitted to make one telephone call per week to a two-year or four-year college prospective student-athlete (or the prospective student-athlete’s relatives or legal guardians). During a contact period that occurs after August 1 before an individual’s senior year in high school, telephone calls may be made at the institution’s discretion. (Adopted: 11/1/01 effective 4/1/02, Revised: 4/29/04 effective 8/1/04, 4/28/05 effective 8/1/05, 1/9/06, 4/29/10 effective 8/1/10)</p>
<p>^ The NCAA just had their annual meeting and passed some new rules effective this summer that eliminate restrictions on contacting recruits. Coaches will basically be able to email, text, phone as much as they want after the specified dates.</p>
<p>They did not, however, pass a proposal that would have given a uniform recruiting start date of 7/1 after sophomore year for all sports. I think they’re going to revisit that idea in April.</p>
<p>I sent in my stuff today and asked if I could unofficially meet with one of the coaches when I visit next week. Should I share on this thread which school it is if that’s important? It’s a pretty high tier D1 team.</p>
<p>OH, If you feel comfortable sharing the name, do. I would refrain from posting which school is your favorite, where you plan to go, and so on, until all that is final. There is a chance someone is watching these posts closely enough to speculate about who is going where, and you will want to keep your decision process somewhat private. To get good information, post your questions here, and ask for a private message from anyone with specific information about a program, particularly if you will be revealing stats that would make it easy to identify you.</p>
<p>So I sent the assistant coach an email that I sent in my transcripts, test scores, and class schedule, and I asked if I could meet with one of the coaches when I visited the school. He emailed back telling me that they would be very busy on the day I am visiting since there are multiple departmental meetings that day (oh well). He also told me he was going to be up front and gave me the standards that they look for for their incoming freshman, and the times he listed are much faster than I have run and probably will ever run, especially since I don’t run the events that he listed!! I told the coach what events I compete in when I sent my initial email, so I’m not sure exactly how to proceed. Does anyone know what I should do?</p>
<p>Not to burst your bubble but if your times are not going to meet their guidelines for incoming freshman and they are not willing to try and meet with you despite meetings, it sounds like it might not be an appropriate fit athletically for you. I am not saying give up, but definitely as others have said cast a wide net and target schools where you meet and or exceed their level of running for your event. Good luck…</p>
<p>It’s not exactly that my times don’t meet their standards, it’s that he gave me standards for only two events, both of which I don’t run (i.e. he gave me standards for long distance events while I run middle distance events).</p>
<p>What events do you run and what are your times? There are plenty of people here that are familiar with track and could give you some advice but you can also look it up on the website for the school and see what times their current athletes are posting and where you fit.</p>
<p>I run the 400 and the 800. I don’t really want to post my times because, as someone said earlier, it makes me easily identifiable. However, I know that the time I’m probably going to run this spring for the 400 would put me as one of the fastest runners on the team in that event, and my predicted 800 would put me at about the middle of their runners in that event. I’ve looked at their team’s results before.</p>
<p>One thing about comparing your times to the team roster to gauge your value to the team, you’re better off checking the results for the conference meet. If this school is ACC, for example, see if your 400 and 800 times would put you in the competitive range in the conference.</p>
<p>A team might be currently weak in the 400, for example, and your times look good by comparison, but that doesn’t mean coach wants to bring on more kids at that level - he wants to bring on kids that have the potential to score points at the big meets.</p>
<p>Too bad the assistant coach at that school didn’t sound real enthused. But make sure to follow the oft-given wisdom on this board: cast a wide net in your recruiting efforts</p>
<p>OH2014, I would recommend another email to the assistant asking him which times they want to see in the 400 and 800. You could phrase your question in a direct way, such as 'Thanks for your reply Coach. I run the 400 and 800, and my times are ___ in the 400 and ____ in the 800. What times would I need to run in those two events to be a solid recruit for U of __?" If you don’t ask this direct question, you will be left to speculate. If he answers the question, you will know how you stack up.</p>
<p>To all recruits: don’t be afraid to ask direct questions. You may not get the answer you want, but you might; either way, you will know where you stand. Coaches generally like to be vague unless you’re one of their top one or two recruits, so you need to seek clarity, which takes guts because you may get a negative response. But it’s better to be disappointed early, when you still have time to explore other options, than disappointed late when you don’t.</p>
<p>^ excellent advice</p>
<p>D3 can call and email you anytime they want, and most D1’s don’t respond or they’ll email you back and tell you that they can’t email you until September 1st or talk to you July 1st of your senior year. My D just kept calling over the summer until she got the coach and set up unofficials that way.</p>