<p>It’s fine to voice your opinion but why would you ask “Is this cheating?” and then ridicule everyone who says it is?</p>
<p>You kinda had in my your court when you first posted… I could see your point. </p>
<p>Then when I saw your rant about how unfair you are being treated, the stupid rules, not conforming… now I have an entirely different opinion.</p>
<p>You helped someone cheat, you got caught, now everyone else is to blame. You knew the rules going into it. Everyone else, being graded in comparison to you, is following the same rules. If you don’t want to play by them, all the more power to you, but don’t expect to lie your way around it, rationalize and retwist your actions into something else, expect a decent grade, and claim the system is out to get you if it doesn’t work to your favor. Grow up already.</p>
<p>All the prof sees is two very similar lab reports and you refuse to tell her what sup. How is she supposed to know which of you cheated or what is going on? Like it’s somehow HER fault now? Did she say collaboration was okay? Or was it supposed to be independent? What was the agreement going into it? If you think what you did is perfectly okay, why would you not tell her? </p>
<p>I don’t think you lack morality, actually. I think you just lack a huge amount of maturity. At least take responsibility for your actions.</p>
<p>The same situation happened to me, but it was in 9th grade for bio lab. I did the lab report and my close friend didn’t so she asked me to send it to her and I was fine with it since we were lab partners. I didn’t realize she would copy it but she did and our papers also had "see me"s on them; she questioned us seperatedly, but I was too scared to get my friend in trouble so I just lied and didn’t mention that I sent it to her. She told us she was going to split the grade in half - so we would each get 48’s. I was pretty annoyed at my friend but I didn’t care too much since we could drop a lab grade anyway.</p>
<p>I agree with you completely- help your friend out- and also everyone else is being annoying and way too strict about this… I don’t think it is your fault at all, it is your friend’s fault. It is ridiculous to be expelled for sending your lab to your lab partner without giving permission to copy.</p>
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<p>my “rants,” actually i wouldn’t call them more like me getting a little off topic, were in response to everyone elses “rants” about how CHEATING is related to morality, and doing the “right thing.” not all cheating is immoral. like what i did i seriously do not think was immoral, but what my friend did was. </p>
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<p>that’s false. if i would have known he was going to copy it then i wouldn’t have sent it. I intended for him to use it as a guide to better understand the lab and easily get the data and calculations (we’re allowed to share that). i acknowledge that i’m responsible, but do i really deserve such harsh consequences as some people have mentioned… like suspension? no i don’t. that’s complete BS. </p>
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<p>i’m glad you brought this up. this is my exact dilemma. my friend already confessed that he copied mine, but he didn’t tell her i sent it to him. she hasn’t said anything to us since we talked (we’re now on xmas break) so i figured i’d just keep my mouth shut until she confronts us again. till then, i’m pondering whether i’d rather see myself get a 0 or lower grade, or see my friend get severely punished for plagiarizing my lab report. </p>
<p>also, he didn’t copy my ENTIRE lab report. he just took a few sentence from my conclusion and theory and reworded them slightly. unfortunately we had the exact same “purpose” because we think of the purpose together before the lab… which probably raised a red flag for the teacher immediately. </p>
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<p>i would say i’m a pretty mature person when i have to be. but being mature is boring! i want to have some fun! haha</p>
<p>and central i’m glad i can find someone who can relate to my situation!</p>
<p>“my “rants,” actually i wouldn’t call them more like me getting a little off topic, were in response to everyone elses “rants” about how CHEATING is related to morality, and doing the “right thing.” not all cheating is immoral. like what i did i seriously do not think was immoral, but what my friend did was.”</p>
<p>Then call him out on it. </p>
<p>“that’s false. if i would have known he was going to copy it then i wouldn’t have sent it. I intended for him to use it as a guide to better understand the lab and easily get the data and calculations (we’re allowed to share that). i acknowledge that i’m responsible, but do i really deserve such harsh consequences as some people have mentioned… like suspension? no i don’t. that’s complete BS.”</p>
<p>Then rat him out, obviously. It is not our problem that you are unwilling to hold your friends to reasonable standards. It’s a very simple solution (although you risk getitng in trouble yourself, I guess). If you’re not willing to follow it, then don’t get angry.</p>
<p>Ack, I’m with you with this one. Don’t rat out your friend, it doesn’t make the situation any better. Those that are harshly against you, don’t listen to them. Trust me, your teacher is acting somewhat unreasonable. Most professors in college are human enough to recognize the difference between blatant acts of cheating and mistakes caused under pressure…in fact, my orgo professor at Cornell often shares these unfortunate stories.</p>