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<p>Apples to Oranges comparison. UCLA includes personal expenses in its costs; Harvard doesn’t. To compare equally, subtract $4k from UCLA’s. I’m not sure where that USC number comes from as it doesn’t match anything on their website.</p>
<p>@TheSpy
The thing about university tuition is that it peaks somewhere around rank 14 - 30 and then it dips when you start getting into the uber-prestigious universities because schools like Harvard have huge endowments and don’t need your money. </p>
<p>I said it once and I will say it again. UCLA’s tuition is a reasonable sum for a school around its rank. Who actually chooses between Harvard and UCLA anyways? The colleges cater to two completely different demographics of students.</p>
<p>@ sentiment</p>
<p>Internationals do!</p>
<p>“^Aren’t you a first year? You’re talking about the difficulty of getting intro classes that are largely interchangeable…”</p>
<p>Well I know a few upperclassmen that had trouble as well with upper divs.</p>
<p>"Apples to Oranges comparison. UCLA includes personal expenses in its costs; Harvard doesn’t. To compare equally, subtract $4k from UCLA’s. I’m not sure where that USC number comes from as it doesn’t match anything on their website. "</p>
<p>ok so that makes Harvard $50K and UCLA $48K. But its pretty sad when a school as good as Harvard only costs $2K more than UCLA (UCLA is a great school with good prestige, but who are we kidding, it can’t compare to Harvard). And the thing is, Harvard, USC, and other privates cost 2-3 thousand more than UCLA, but they give WAY more financial aid so you will definitely end up paying less. My EFC was 45000 and I still got $10K in grants from USC. One of my friends here is also OOS and he is also transferring. He got about $20K in financial aid here (which is actually a lot for OOS here- you probably won’t get much more than that). He got into Vandy, and he is getting $55K in financial aid.</p>
<p>To be fair, harvard is probably around the same price as any private school in the usnwr’s top 50. Surely tufts university can’t quite match up to harvard either, yet it costs 3000 dollars more.</p>
<p>Yea but at least Tufts is a private school (the main point is the type of education- private is usually more personalized and has smaller class sizes than public schools). If UCLA was a private school, their tuition would be somewhat understandable</p>
<p>How is it not understandable? You’re not a CA resident, so you’re not getting a government-subsidized education.</p>
<p>theespys69, your logic basically relies on the assumption that any
private > any public. I think it’s safe to say that’s not a fair assumption. I will be attending ucla rather than the private schools I was admitted to, and as an international with no aid everything is around the same price. I just feel that ucla was the best of my options, public or otherwise.</p>
<p>“theespys69, your logic basically relies on the assumption that any
private > any public”</p>
<p>Not really. I’m just saying that OOS tuition at a public school shouldn’t cost more than private school tuition.</p>
<p>"How is it not understandable? You’re not a CA resident, so you’re not getting a government-subsidized education. "</p>
<p>I understand not getting in-state tuition, but $52K for OOS tuition is a lot. Most public schools only charge $40-42K for OOS tuition (some may charge a little more). And they actually give financial aid to OOS people too (not as much financial aid as privates give but certainly more than UCLA does)</p>
<p>Why shouldn’t it cost more than a private school if it is better than that private school? The state of California is not obliged to give me a subsidized education much like nyu isn’t, but I personally see ucla as a stronger school.</p>
<p>According to us news:</p>
<p>ucla $29897
cal $30022
uva $31870
umich $34240</p>
<p>those are out-of-state tuition fees for roughly comparable public schools. Seems pretty reasonable to me.</p>
<p>i think the oos tuition is reasonable but what isnt reasonable is how they calculate their financial aid. they dont consider the 22,000 oos fee when calculating aid. ucla calculated that my family was able to pay $25,000 then asked us for $47,000…nearly double what they said we could reasonably pay!</p>