<p>I was not an English major and defer to those who were, but I am still pondering why “employed at” hurts my ears. Maybe its an active/passive thing? Employed by/with or in the employ of? I can’t figure it out. When my DH worked at The Big Widget Company, they all said they were employed by The Big Widget Company, or worked at… Maybe its formal/informal? Dunno. But then again, the “interned at” or “interned with” difference doesn’t sound as dramatically different, though one sounds like a place and the other a person. So I give up. I guess I’ll go back to watching football and cutting up a fruit salad.</p>
<p>whatever4-
Understand your concerns, but perhaps his school has a career services resource he can access (even if it means travelling back to campus for a career fair). Yes, higher GPAs are helpful, but it is what it is. Did he do any research he can put on his resume? Any contacts in your home town he can do a post grad internship, even if at no pay?</p>
<p>In order to my ear:
I am employed by Company X.
I am employed at Company X.
I am employed with Company X. (sounds more british to me)</p>
<p>But
I work at Company X.
Not I work by Company X. (This indicates that your workplace is next door.)
Maybe I work with Company X if I’m a consultant or something.</p>
<p>My D, a June 2012 grad w/ English major, is working full time. Not a professional job, but one she enjoys quite a bit. She wants to take a break for a couple years before dealing with grad school apps.</p>
<p>I’m very pleased she was able to find a job she likes, even though it means she’s happily living her independent life on the opposite coast. :(</p>
<p>ooh, 'rent of 2, an English major! Ask her the grammar question! :D</p>
<p>My s#1 is also employed on the opposite coast He is happy and has a gf there, so I dont expect him to be back this way :(. Interestingly, he is talking about considering returning to grad school, possibly fall of '13 (after 5 yrs in the work world). In this economy I worry a bit about opportunities if he leaves the work force. Its funny-- I am a big proponent of education and advanced degrees, but I worry about his finances if he goes fulltime in a field that probably wont provide funding (he’d do business, not engineering if he goes back to school). Then again, if not now, when??</p>
<p>My Music Ed graduate DD is working…as a nanny. She is making decent money and saving to start grad school next year and has moved into her own apartment.</p>
<p>After an assistantship in music performance fell through and she applied for over 30 teaching jobs (with only one interview) she was forced to re-evaluate. Her new plan is to pursue a graduate degree in counseling in the hopes that it will make her more marketable to school positions. Her co-graduates of the Music Ed program at her college are about 90% still unemployed, some have had a few interviews, some have taken long term sub positions. Only a couple have actually found full time teaching positions. One even lamented to my DD that he was even rejected from his local Walmart. It is definitely a tough job market.</p>
<p>My daughter and I have had more talks about grammar than I can count. She was one of those kids that read grammar books for fun when she was 10. She assures me that for her generation having a solid knowledge of proper grammar is, as it always has been, very important and very enriching to one’s life. However, she reminds me that being overly adherent to it in certain media (internet chat boards being one) is d</p>
<p>D was SUPPOSED to have graduated last spring (we attended ceremony & all), but she’s back, taking a few more courses and HOPES to get an internship SOON. We all HOPE the internship will lead to a cinema job, but who knows? Oh well…we can only hope.</p>
<p>I think this thread would be interesting with more information. </p>
<p>In addition to major & if new job was in the student’s desired industry, info such as salary, whether your student is now fully financially independent (including for student loan payments), cost of education, and/or loans outstanding would be interesting.</p>
<p>@samiamy: this thread is hardly representative of reality. Even if it were, employment numbers alone don’t tell the whole story without further info.</p>
<p>I agree the extra information would be telling. The HS friends of my d that have started to work, non are in the fields they went to school for, non are earning much a little more than minimum wage (ie $10-12 per hour), non are financially independent.</p>
<p>The handful of STEM majors she knows that were lucky to find employment, (5 of about 40 that are working)
60K is the lowest, most in this range
75K is the highest with relocation expenses and 10K bonus was the highest.</p>
<p>All above HS friends/college friends have some outstanding debt, except one.</p>
<p>I find the request for some of those details a little invasive, but I’ll answer to the extent I’m comfortable.</p>
<p>Major: Photography and Literature (double major)</p>
<p>Job in Industry: Yes but not what she was hoping for. She sees this job as “paying her dues” and plans to use it to move up to a more creative position within a year.</p>
<p>Financially Independent: Mostly - she pays for rent and living expenses, will cover student loan payments when they kick in. We will cover housing deposits and basic furniture when her living situation changes from a furnished room rental to an apartment. We pay for car insurance and health insurance.</p>
<p>Cost of Education: Outrageous, minus a good merit scholarship. D knew that her choice of an expensive LAC would incur some loans but we covered the vast majority of her tuition.</p>
<p>Our kiddo who graduated in 2010 in STEM (EE) got a job which started 6/2011 in 2/2010. He’s been financially independent since he received his 1st paycheck (with great benefits) & they paid his moving expenses, his work-travel. He has scheduled promotions and raises, they would have helped with loan repayments and offer to help/pay additional education/certification. He’s making in the range of folks in his field. He COULD get medical insurance but has opted to just remain on H’s plan until he’s 26 and save the money he would have spent on premiums, since he has great coverage and our insurer agreed it makes no sense for him to pay for additional coverage.</p>
<p>Sadly, to him, he is NOT able to practice engineering, as they have decided he’s much more valuable to him as a project manager. It is officially IN his field & he doesn’t have major complaints.</p>
<p>S1 with 2 majors (one a STEM major the school doesn’t officially acknowledge in the diploma the other a very liberal liberal arts one) had the job lined up one month before graduation and started 3 weeks after. No debt, completely independent. Suspect he was hired most likely because of the STEM background but it’s really hard to tell. Unexpectedly good salary and benefits. Agree more detailed info would be invasive.</p>
<p>My son graduated in December, 2011. He had a job offer before he graduated and started about 6 weeks after he graduated. He is an EE, working in his field with a national company, nice salary, excellent benefits and relocation package. He is completely financially independent except his cell phone bill. We have kept him on our family plan because it is a better plan than he can get on his own for a lot less money, grandfathered in with unlimited data. He has a very small student loan debt that he could easily pay off but is using it to build credit rating. Of his graduating class of about a dozen EEs, he is the only one working in a permanent position in his field. Two have temporary jobs, several are working not in their fild and the rest are in Masters programs.</p>
<p>S1: math major, working as software engineer at a major company on the opposite coast. Has been doing work for them via internships and open source coding since the summer after freshman year. Is fully financially independent, has terrific salary, is bonus/stock eligible, is getting reloc expenses and full bennies. He has $22k in Staffords which he will be paying off. Between scholarships, work and Staffords, he funded 40% of a top ten school and had a tidy sum in the bank afterwards to launch himself. We did not have to borrow for his education.</p>
<p>He (and we) know just how fortunate he is to have landed this opportunity.</p>
<p>Major: Poli sci (public policy concentration); minor was economics</p>
<p>Job in industry: Yes; he works for a think tank. He’s got good benefits and makes decent money, but lives in an expensive city.</p>
<p>Financially independent: Yes. We just pay for his trips home to visit.</p>
<p>He’s planning to go back to grad school at some point, but he’s in no hurry for now. In his current city, there are at least 3 schools that he could attend to get his master’s, all of which allow for part-time enrollment so he could still work and take classes at night.</p>
<p>I can’t speak for my D because she is only a sophomore. However, two sisters who live on our cul-de-sac graduated last May. Both went to small liberal arts colleges to play lacrosse. Both have moved back home and have not found work yet. They occasionally did babysitting this summer. Their brother was kicked out of his college during his first week back at school. So, he’s back home going to our local community college. The parents have a full nest again. I’m sure they are anxious to get them on their feet and gainfully employed.</p>
<p>Another neighbor’s daughter graduated from vet school 16 months ago. She is living at home and has not found a job yet. However, her parents said that she does not want to work as a hands-on vet. She would like to do research. She has huge college debt that she needs to start paying.</p>
<p>One of our other neighbor’s sons graduated in 2011 with a degree in business. He had a job lined up with Deloitte before graduating. He had summer internships almost every summer while attending college.</p>
<p>Sheesh, seriously? What is the point in writing multiple replies grammar picking at someone on an online forum? I honestly don’t see a problem with “interned at” rather than “interned with.” This is kind of amusing to me because I’m the go-to girl for grammar questions in my department at work and I was a writing tutor when I was in college. </p>
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<p>I majored in history and minored in business administration. My job is in my desired industry (marketing) and I got the type of position I wanted at a company that I’ve always wanted to work for. </p>
<p>I’m not really up to sharing my salary, but I’m basically financially independent. I pay all my own living expenses. My parents are footing the bill for my new car and car insurance (The car was a graduation/birthday present and it’s their choice to pay for the insurance - I’m capable of paying it myself, they just want to). </p>
<p>As for the cost of my education, I went to an expensive LAC. I have no outstanding loans.</p>
<p>“Sheesh. Seriously?” I said it was a pet peeve (and for the record, it was in conjunction with “employed”, not “interned”, though did muse over that one as well, to a lesser degree). Chill. And if you find yourself having to update your resume, grammar check is your friend.</p>
<p>Heavens, though, wouldn’t want to be declasse’</p>
<p>I’m aware that it was in conjunction with both “employed at” and “interned at,” I just happened to quote the reply that talked about “employed at” and wrote “interned at” in my post. For what it’s worth, I typed “I am employed at a company” into Word and spell/grammar check found nothing wrong with it. </p>
<p>You don’t need to be condescending about “grammar check being my friend” should I find myself having to update my resume - like I said before, I consider myself quite competent with grammar. The phrase “employed at” isn’t something that I use on my resume anyways.</p>
He is happy and has a gf there, so I dont expect him to be back this way :(. Interestingly, he is talking about considering returning to grad school, possibly fall of '13 (after 5 yrs in the work world). In this economy I worry a bit about opportunities if he leaves the work force. Its funny-- I am a big proponent of education and advanced degrees, but I worry about his finances if he goes fulltime in a field that probably wont provide funding (he’d do business, not engineering if he goes back to school). Then again, if not now, when??</p>