Isn't a 2200+ good enough for Ivies? - V2

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<li><p>So tell your guidance counselors to change it? That’s not Naviance’s fault, it’s your schools. </p></li>
<li><p>Boo hoo. Try harder?</p></li>
<li><p>I don’t really know what you’re talking about, but I can see GPA and ACT on the same graph in my Naviance account.</p></li>
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<p>GPA Vs SAT Score …</p>

<p>I think …</p>

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<li><p>There are far more kids scoring perfect GPAs or near perfect GPAs than kids who score 2300+ in SAT.</p></li>
<li><p>The kids scoring 2300+ normally have very high GPAs and there may be only a few exceptions</p></li>
<li><p>While colleges consider GPA as an important measure, for highlly selective colleges the differentiator really becomes SAT scores as far more kids apply with high GPA and less 2300 scores than kids with high GPA and 2300+. So SAT stats appears to be influencing the college admission process more than GPA.</p></li>
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<p>boston,</p>

<p>a lot of scatterplots for certain colleges aren’t shown just because there are only one or two apps, and even when a scatterplot does show for SATvs.GPA it might not show for ACTvs.GPA since less take the ACT.</p>

<p>I just have to pitch in and say, that a 2200 broken down as such: 800 800 600 - is a lot worse than one as such - 800 700 700. I personally have a 2260, but I missed the 700 mark on CR, so that’s not too great. Had I gotten a 2260 like this: 760W, 700CR, 800M - instead of this: 800W, 800M, 660CR, I think it would’ve been better in the admissions people’s eyes.</p>

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It was a joke. Chill out.</p>

<p>LOL. I’m in an awkward spot. I’m definitely taking two more SAT Subject Tests in October (Math II & U.S. History), but I’m not sure if I should retake the SAT I’s. I got a 2300 [800CR/730M/770W] first time around, no prep. I also got a 34 [E35/M33/R35/S32] on the ACT on my first try this June.</p>

<p>I’m not entirely sure what to do – retake SAT/ACT (or both) or not bother with either one. I’m rather confident I could boost the 770 in Writing to an 800 with a solid essay. However, the Math section is so unpredictable, although I do think it’s probably the easiest section to study for. Or should I just try the ACT again this September? But I mean, a 2300 & a 34 are really good scores, and I don’t want to somehow come out with lower ones.</p>

<p>Your scores are excellent. Don’t retake either. If you get rejected, it’s not going to be because of low scores.</p>

<p>"Your scores are excellent. Don’t retake either. If you get rejected, it’s not going to be because of low scores. "</p>

<p>Well, that’s what all the acceptees say XD</p>

<p>is it true that people make up ECs? that’s really lame…</p>

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<p>Sounds pretty pathetic eh? Well let’s start from there - consider the facts at hand:</p>

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<li><p>You have colleges that have unrealistic expectations for high school students.</p></li>
<li><p>Students who desperately want to get into these colleges.</p></li>
<li><p>Colleges that not only buy the bull **** you tell them but spend ZERO time verifying ANY information. Most famously, Adam Wheeler (google search). </p></li>
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<p>And while I believe and hope that the majority of the applicants pursue integrity in their applications, you’d be naive to ignore the growing minority of people in the process.</p>

<p>Thequestionmark: That is actually pretty good evidence. I just wanted to be sure that you had something to back up your claims, i just wanted to make sure :P. Theres so much hype on CC sometimes lol.</p>

<p>And the guy who applied with like a 3.5 and a 1500 SAT is an absolute fail.</p>

<p>In th end, though, most people ant raise their SATs by 300 points, or don’t havfe the time too. I would still recommend that they pursue academic passions instead.</p>

<p>“In th end, though, most people ant raise their SATs by 300 points, or don’t havfe the time too. I would still recommend that they pursue academic passions instead.”</p>

<p>Well we’re only talking 100 points, which is achievable by a decently large percent of the population.</p>

<p>dang thanks for that on adam wheeler lol. i can use him on my sat essay</p>

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<p>Agree wholeheartedly with OP except for this statement. From what I have read, the “Harvards” of the world with their $36 billion endowment do not convey legacy status on nearly as many kids as before. That is unless the parents want to donate a building.</p>

<p>"At some schools, legacy preferences have an effect on admissions comparable to other factors such as being a recruited athlete or affirmative action. One study of three selective private research universities in the United States showed the following effects (admissions disadvantage and advantage in terms of SAT points on the old 1600-point scale):</p>

<pre><code>* Blacks: +230

  • Hispanics: +185
  • Asians: –50
  • Recruited athletes: +200
  • Legacies (children of alumni): +160
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[Legacy</a> preferences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences]Legacy”>Legacy preferences - Wikipedia)
Study: <a href=“http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/tje/espenshadessqptii.pdf[/url]”>http://opr.princeton.edu/faculty/tje/espenshadessqptii.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Well, you can disagree all you want, but without any factual support you’re just guessing.</p>

<p>Bump 5char</p>

<p>thequestionmark, thanks for that article and those stats ^^ they were really informative :)</p>

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<p>Tsk tsk, I know an Eagle Scout who fabricates hospital volunteer hours.</p>

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<p>Well the whole Eagle Scout thing is really diminishing in prestige.</p>