<p>NJ Res...at least in some cases, the number of students being admitted IS declining. At Yale, for example, not only did the overall acceptance rate drop to 8.6% (setting this year's Ivy League low), the number of admitted students also dropped, reflecting a steadily increasing yield over the last few years. Of course, a hike in applications also contributed to the decline in acceptance rate.</p>
<p>some interesting things to consider:
-the number of hs grads is expected to continue rising for the next few years.
-the percentage of hs grads continuing to college is also increasing.
-the number of applications per student also seems to be on the rise.</p>
<p>of these, the last may be the most interesting. i, for one, expect to see colleges react to this soon by rejecting or waitlisting those students applying from schools that are known to permit unlimited college apps. those high schools that limit apps to 6 or 7, as some of the best NYC public schools do, will probably see their students receive even more favorable treatment. if a college knows there is a good chance you will attend if accepted, there is a higher likelihood of acceptance. if they know there is little chance that you'll ultimately attend, they will be reluctant to accept you and watch their yield suffer.</p>
<p>"At Yale, for example, not only did the overall acceptance rate drop to 8.6% (setting this year's Ivy League low), the number of admitted students also dropped, reflecting a steadily increasing yield over the last few years. Of course, a hike in applications also contributed to the decline in acceptance rate."</p>
<p>But the total number of Ivy places remained the same, or even increased slightly. And for every applicant rejected at one of the schools ED, there was likely 6-10 additional applications, all without a single new applicant.</p>
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<p>nycdad, I hope you are right about that! D's high school limits kids to seven applications, and that number isn't budging! So I have to help her make the most of them. My fingers are crossed that with a CC-obsessed mom, she will do okay.</p>
<p>NJRes - I have it on pretty good authority that by 2245, the best students will be attending more than one college simultaneously(something to do with a procedure called "partial cloning" that will be discovered by researchers in the region we call South Korea). I don't know how that affects your model; just thought you should know. Students in the future will, however, be given 50% more time to complete their degrees, provided they have the express written permission of the commissioner of baseball. Due to complications of the Patriot Act, I'm not at liberty to tell you how I know this.</p>
<p>Admissions to Shangri-La:
Yale: 8.6% or 1,823 students of 21,099 applicants
Harvard: 9.3 % or 2,109 students of 22,753
Dartmouth: 15.4% or 2,150 of 13,937 applicants
Columbia: 9.6% or 1,653 students of 17,148 Columbia College applicants.
Columbia SEAS: 22.75% or 614 students of 2,700 SEAS applicants.
Columbia Corrected: 11.42% or 2267 students of 19,848 applicants.</p>
<p>Brown: PROBABLE 2500 of 18298
Cornell: PROBABLE 21% of 28000
Princeton: PROBABLE 1800 of 17478
Penn: TBD of 20300</p>
<p>Admissions to Lacrosse Heaven:
Duke: 19.52% or 3,778 of 19,358</p>
<p>macnyc...my s graduated from such a school...possibly the same one...and did just fine.</p>
<p>parents were always pushing for more, but wisely the gc resisted. 1) they couldn't possibly have processed more apps with the limited resources at their disposal and 2) they knew that while it might help an individual student, it would harm all of them collectively.</p>
<p>personally, i understood both sides of the argument and sided with the gc. and as for my s, the reality is that 1) he just barely found 7 schools that he wanted to apply to and 2) couldn't possibly have done a good job on the applications if there had been more.</p>
<p>the latter point is critical, too. there's too much emphasis on grades and test scores and not enough on the application, essays and interviews. there's much more to filling out an application than jotting a blurb in the blanks. good ones tell a story from beginning to end. over the next few days, there are going to be a lot of students and parents wondering why person A got in while person B didn't. in many cases, we'll never know, because the answer is in the app and not the stats.</p>