<p>Hi Varska, my child sent in his list of senior courses and transcript but now wants to change his schedule by dropping a class in science. He is only in the first week of classes. He will still have a rigorous schedule, but he doesn’t want to overload so that he can mange everything at a high level. Will having one fewer course than he submitted cause a problem for him with admissions?</p>
<p>Hi junmom…you could probably start a new thread with this one. My thought would be to be careful before dropping anything that you’ve listed as your senior course load. I’d at least check with your GC and preferably the recruiting coach to make sure it’s not something that will bite you down the road.
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Others here may have more direct experience with that situation</p>
<p>Just passing on a simple bit of knowledge that most of you may know but it if not, you should be informed. The IL coaches can really only offer admissions assistance if you are applying early action or early decision. If you bypass this process, you are on your own. Therefore, this is a bit different than the non-Ivy recruiting process. Although our daughter has been recruited by several IL’s, she seems to be intent on applying early to a non-Ivy and walking on because it is the school she really wants to attend. She has done one IL OV which is probably her second choice. She had another coach tell her she would only get an OV if she was going to apply early and so she was honest telling him she was not applying to his school early. She turned down OV’s at 2 other IL’s because she was not interested in those schools. She still has one more OV scheduled at a D3 school. It is very interesting that 2 IL schools which showed immense interest in her as a junior have been completely silent even after trying to contact one of them. Yes, I know she is rolling the dice…</p>
<p>What’s a decent time to run in 800m junior year to be able to realistically run for an Ivy? Not to particularly be recruited, but to be able to run there with some work on the athlete’s part (contacting coaches etcetera).</p>
<p>For women this is pretty helpful. Granted Princeton’s standards might be a little higher than some other schools in the 800m. I would think for men a sub 1:55 would definitely get you a walk on spot.</p>
<p>If my s has been told by a couple of IL schools that if the get an additional slot soon, they will call him and they’ve encouraged him to have his application ready. According to jadbow post, coaches can only offer support if applying early. Does this mean if he isn’t offered a slot this week, it will be too late for a LL from these schools? Thank you</p>
<p>Coaches can help to apply ED even after the ED deadline. The deadlines were also extended this year by a few days because of CommonApp glitches.</p>
<p>junmom - recruiting still happens after the ED deadline. Coaches like to use it (ED/SCEA) as a way to get a solid commit from a recruit that they’re going to put up for a LL. But it’s a fast and furious game of musical chairs this week and no doubt some coaches will be learning that their top recruits committed elsewhere. That’s when they may be reaching out to fill some spots.</p>
<p>Having been through the recruitment phase with my daughter, I am a bit jaded by the ivy league experience.<br>
D was offered “support” but no LL. Invited to the summer track and field day (which we went to at great expense) and thought it was a waste of time. High school coach had lots of communication with ivy coach, and he thought she was in. Applied early to ivy and was deferred. Academically, one of the top recruits (we were told), however not fast enough-obviously. Unfortunately, d had her heart set on this ivy and not getting in was quite a blow. I guess this is a live and learn situation. Just wish the coach had really been more clear about her chances.
However, it turned out for the best, as D is now running on a wonderful D1 team which is a perfect fit for her, and the experience has been outstanding. She could not be happier and the education and atheltics are first class. So, to those of you who are in a similar situation, I urge you to keep your options open and know that you can find a great place where you will thrive!</p>
<p>mum, you hit on a couple key points that get discussed here often. LL vs. “support” , as you and your D learned, coach support without that LL just isn’t enough to hang your hat on. Summer camps and “track days” aren’t much help either. Glad it all worked out for the best for your daughter.</p>
For those of you who have gone to one of the Ivy Open Houses for T&F can you please tell me how the process went after that. It was kind of hard to get a read on the level of interest at one place, and at another we had a chance to meet with the coach who expressed interest directly to us in a face to face meeting, but it was kind of vague in regards to next steps.
Here’s what has happened has so far.
Son has some good track and field performances. He contacted some schools he likes expressing interest . Coaches have responded fairly quickly. In those communications, son has shared GPA, Test scores etc. They invite him to their invite only Open House. In another follow up email recently before the Open House, my son emailed copies of all academic info, grades, test scores, schedules, school profile, etc. Coaches respond that it’s great to have everything so well organized, but nothing more.
In the meeting we had at one of the schools at the conclusion of the Open House the coach said that a full application would be necessary for a premed with admissions. They wouldn’t just look at the info son has sent already and give an assessment. He’d have to submit a formal app. Does that seem normal? The coach expressed interest to son and me face to face and that he wanted him to be part of the team. We basically said great, school was #1 choice, and thanks for the meeting and invite, and then we left.
At one of the Nescac schools he looked at the coach was able to get a pre-read with the same info, and got it done in just a few days. The process seems more dragged at the Ivies.
So I am just wondering what the process looks like from there? Son will send a thank you note in the next day or two to say thanks and reiterate interest and top choice.
Is the process submit an app before an OV?
Or get an OV hopefully, go to OV, confirm with coach that is #1 and then submit app?
I’m going to have my son try to communicate with the coach to get a more clear direction of what he wants son to do. But any info some of you may have on the process would be very helpful. Thanks!
@RightCoaster I think typically the pre read is done without a complete app; just scores, transcript, profile, senior schedule. That’s usually done (along with FA pre read if asked) prior to the OV (I thought most coaches are required by the AD to do this prior to the OV but not sure). For the likely letter though a full app is usually needed, but for most athletes (not all) that happens after an OV. When you say the coach expressed interest, do you mean he offered to support the application and request a likely letter? If so, and your son has strong academic stats, maybe he’s just jumping ahead in the process and the pre read he’s talking about is the ED app submitted through for a likely letter? Or is it possible you are conflating those in your memory of the conversation? Anyway, an email to the coach is probably a good idea and would help clarify…”remind me where we go from here…”.
Also, do keep in mind that the process is going to vary by school and sport AND can be very different for athletes being recruited by the same school for the same sport in the same year.
Hi @RightCoaster – we’ve DM’d before. I think you are right to question why you are being asked to submit a full app for the pre-read. Odd.
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Per @politeperson 's comment above, if your son is not yet asking the coach if he is in line to be supported for admissions support/LL he should do so immediately.
We had one ACC coach that really pressured my son to get his app in early but he was evasive on scholarship/admit support. Athletically, it was a reach school and after a while it became apparent that the coach was just trying to get my son to put in an app with the hope that he would get in on own (not suggesting this is happening to you).
Last year D was being recruited by one Ivy for XCTF and submitted pre-read info over the summer and received a “two thumbs up” response from admissions/coaches. While things didn’t go further than that, the next step would have been an OV then expectation that she would apply ED… She ultimately ended up signing with an ACC school. I was less then impressed with the Ivy process relative to other D1 programs in clarity and openness in the recruiting process.
Pre-read comes first. I wouldn’t waste an ED unless you know exactly where you stand on the recruiting depth chart. If it’s the dream school and you want to take a chance, that’s fine, but be realistic.