Ivy specialties

<p>DRab, I did a little snooping on the Harvard website, and I couldn't find much except the Dean's List has been abolished because 92% of Harvard students were on it. I did find that 50% of grades are A's. That seems a bit high to me, but the article says it's on par with other schools. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.harvard.edu/printerfriendly.aspx?ref=161345%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thecrimson.harvard.edu/printerfriendly.aspx?ref=161345&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I would give anything to have 50% of the grades in my classes be A's.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.registrar.fas.harvard.edu/handbooks/student/PDF/Chapter%202/honors_requirements.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.registrar.fas.harvard.edu/handbooks/student/PDF/Chapter%202/honors_requirements.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I know that this is the new policy, but it's still something to look it.</p>

<p>90% of students getting honors is rediculous (like having 60 validictorians), but most of the Harvard honors students that year got the lowest form of honors, and the highest form was and is quite hard to get, at least in most disciplines.</p>

<p>The College at Penn gives 50% A's. However, Wharton, SEAS, and Nursing do not have anything close to that grade inflation.</p>

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What does that mean? According to whom?

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<p>The number one business school in the country according to the Wall Street Journal.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.tuck.dartmouth.edu/news/releases/pr20050920_wsj.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.tuck.dartmouth.edu/news/releases/pr20050920_wsj.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I wanted to clarify that because I took issue with the fact that Flavian took it upon himself to explain that Dartmouth has "limited" grad schools compared to the rest of the Ivies...</p>

<p>Tuck has been widely known as #1 business.
I personally would kill myself before getting an MBA, but it is appealing to some.</p>

<p>One thing to keep in mind is that most Harvard students truly are brilliant (if sometimes arrogant). A lot of non-ivy students might go to Harvard and pull-Bs.</p>

<p>this is true, but you would think that harvard's profs. would then set a higher standard to distinguish the truly exceoptional students.</p>

<p>I think TIch's being #1 depends on who you ask, really. Not that I think it lacks something, I just wonder about things being "widely known as #1" when other schools have equal if not greater claims for various reasons.</p>

<p>WSJ rankings have always been known to be pretty flawed. I think that a combination of the Businessweek rankings and the USNews B-School rankings are the best measurement.</p>

<p>OK well they are just like all the others rankings that people spew on this site...</p>

<p>If Harvard students would be tops anyplace else they would go, why is it necessary to distinguish between them much more at Harvard? A sharper grading curve essentially increases competition between students, but that's not a major advantage from my perspective. I used to be someone who worried about grade inflation a great deal, but I've become someone who thinks the attention and amount of feedback students get from professors is more important in determining how much a student learns than is the actual grade assigned...</p>

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If Harvard students would be tops anyplace else they would go, why is it necessary to distinguish between them much more at Harvard? A sharper grading curve essentially increases competition between students, but that's not a major advantage from my perspective. I used to be someone who worried about grade inflation a great deal, but I've become someone who thinks the attention and amount of feedback students get from professors is more important in determining how much a student learns than is the actual grade assigned...

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<p>Well, then ecape, if that's how you feel, then perhaps you'd like to have a talk with the profs at places like MIT and Caltech. After all, the students there would basically be on top anywhere else too, so why should those students be graded as hard as they are? Why shouldn't MIT and Caltech inflate their grades? </p>

<p>And then you get into the even more sticky issue of why there is different levels of grade inflation WITHIN a particular school. For example, at most schools, it is widely understood that technical courses are graded harder than nontechnical courses. For example, a higher percentage of bad grades tend to be given out in Harvard Physics and Mathematics courses than in Harvard humanities courses. Why is that?</p>

<p>The practical value of grade inflation is that it gets people into graduate schools. A lot of people think that grade inflation is cheap and bs but that's the truth.</p>

<p>Tuck has only recently been named #1 for MBA programs... And many people aren't buying it so I would hardly say that it is "widely known" as such.</p>

<p>I'm not advocating for Wharton MBA either so don't get me wrong. I hate MBAs :)</p>

<p>Well sakky, I'm someone who would prob never go to MIT or Caltech. I'm one of those idealist liberal "learn for the sake of learning" "value different perspectives" quacks... so there's prob not much common ground upon which we could have this debate.</p>

<p>Tuck was also named #1 in 2001 and 2002.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.collegejournal.com/bschool03/rankingsatglance/top50.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegejournal.com/bschool03/rankingsatglance/top50.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The best business school is Kellogg School of Management of Northwestern University!</p>

<p>Flavian, could you explain why you think that?</p>

<p>I'd like to challenge that cornell is weak in child psychology and psychology. Where do you get that? Cornell has one of the best professors in the field, to name a few: </p>

<p>James Maas (next year will again teach the LARGEST single lecture class in the US) - expert in sleep, </p>

<p>Ceci - CHILDREN (he was on one of these news Dateline/frontline for testimony false (leading) children as witnesses, especially in sexual abuses cases)</p>

<p>Gilovich - did a famous study that found that the color black was associated with more penalties (aka more aggression or perceived aggression) and due to that, a few teams in the NFL and NHL and others changed their colors to black.</p>

<p>Daryl Bem - famous for his sexual orientation research. "exotic/erotic" </p>

<p>Cindy Hazan (human development) - famous for her attachment theory (secure, insecure avoidance, insecure ambivalent)</p>

<p>Reyna - a new addition (she is my research professor, I have to add her), famous for Fuzzy trace theory, and one of the architectures for the famous "NO Child Left behind" Act</p>

<p>I could go on and on, and I study under these professors and so do many people. Sure they are not Stanford's Bandura or Zimmerman, or Yale's Milgram, or Wisconsin's Harlow, but the profs. I've listed are very well known and respected, and the psychology and human development program at Cornell is strong, not weak. I really don't know where you are getting that this is a weakness Collegehelp. Could you care to explain? Thank you</p>