<p>I need an unbiased opinion so I chose to post this topic here.
The facts: Cornell is consistently ranked as the lowest IVY on USNEWS report. However, I have the viewbook and the place is simply gorgeous. Now, Dartmouth is a better filler school to get into top grad schools according to WSJ, but what does Cornell have? BOth have world class dorms and food. Both have outstanding education. But, which school is ultimately greater?</p>
<p>Let the battle begin.</p>
<p>Where do you hear about the food, I like food.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere and it's not that popular an option for people around here, whereas Cornell has a big gorge which people jump off of but atleast its in New York.</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot to say which one wins: Cornell wins Round 1.</p>
<p>hmmm.......alrighty. What about the social scene at these schools? Oh and round 1 IS NOT OVER YET! LOL</p>
<p>Who cares? Columbia wins!</p>
<p>But if I had to choose Dartmouth and Cornell, it'd definitely be Cornell. Cornell wins because it has more research opportunities and more diversity...simply because it's bigger.</p>
<p>cornell, at least their engineering rocks</p>
<p>dartmouth > cornell and columbia.</p>
<p>what kind of "top undergraduate institution" has more graduate students than undergrads?</p>
<p>Dartmouth is very similar to Princeton - undergraduate focus.</p>
<p>"Dartmouth is in the middle of nowhere and it's not that popular an option for people around here, whereas Cornell has a big gorge which people jump off of but atleast its in New York."</p>
<p>Cornell is in the middle of nowhere...</p>
<p>More grad = more highly knowledgable staff.
Less undergrad = more opputunities for research positions and more focused classes.</p>
<p>Yeah, but Dartmouth is REALLY in the middle of nowhere. It was so far away I couldn't visit it when my friends and I did a college tour of the East. Hanover (I think it is?) was too out of the way. I guess Cornell is out of the way as well. Atleast Ithaca is a lively city sort of. I dunno. The people I know at Dartmouth have become really boring, while my friends at Cornell seem to be more active on the social scene. The Dartmouth kids love drinking and thats all they do. The Cornell kids have lots of other people to hang out with outside of Cornell as well. Its a matter of preference.</p>
<p>I envision Columbia having an advantage because it gets cool gadgets thanks to grad schools that outweights the disadvantage.</p>
<p>"More grad = more highly knowledgable staff.
Less undergrad = more opputunities for research positions and more focused classes."</p>
<p>that's the most pathetic thing i've ever heard any knowledgable person say...</p>
<p>first of all, more grad doesn't mean less undergrad... for schools like penn cornell, the student faculty ratio is so high that reporting them would be an embarassment to the schools. the more grad students, the less focus will be given to undergraduate students... Princeton, having around 75% of its students as undergrads, is still a top research university, with more nobel prize winning professors than columbia, and princeton doesn't even have any professional grad schools (law, med, etc.) the more highly knowledgable stuff for big schools like harvard yale columbia are not used for undergrads; as a matter of fact, it is almost impossible for frosh students to take classes taught by nobel winning profs at schools like MIT...</p>
<p>Wow, you seem really assertive about that, but its true: lots of students at Columbia take courses at Grad schools and get to work with profs alot (who are there for Grad). Of course, it goes both ways. It gets annoying to have a TA that barely knows English teaching classes as well, but that doesn't happen so often at Cornell as probaby other larger schools.</p>
<p>Okay, first off, I never said more grad = less undergrad, but most of what I said regarded Columbia. Second, you are probably right about my undergrad statement. I still hold firm to my grad statement, though we may never see it until later years. Third, I like Dartmouth more because there is not so many people and seems like a better school even if it is in the middle of nowhere.</p>
<p>...um Columbia rocks.</p>
<p>I prefer Cornell to Dartmouth hands down. I've visited both campuses, and have friends at both, and I like Cornell far better. Though both schools are indeed in the middle of nowhere, Dartmouth is MUCH farther from civilization than Cornell is. Both are great schools, and the overall education is essentially equal. Specific programs are better at each, however.</p>
<p>It seems that most people here favor Cornell over Dartmouth, as I do. However, if you posted this thread on the Priceton board, I can guaruntee it would be the opposite. Dartmouth, like Princeton, is an elitist, homogeneous school. Most Princetonians would argue that Dartmouth is a better school, hands down, but that is only because it is a lot like Princeton.</p>
<p>Overall, I prefer Cornell because it is beautiful, more fun, and has more to offer in the areas of science and engineering. They are both great schools, and it is ultimately a matter of preference.</p>
<p>WHich school is better for future lawyers?</p>
<p>EDIT: CORNELL IS MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN DARTMOUTH!!?!?!?!?!??!!?!??!
Uhm...........</p>
<p>i think comparing cornell and dartmouth is like comparing apples and mangoes- two completely different things. cornell is a great school for "techies" and dartmouth is a great school for "fuzzies". its the difference between a science oriented school and a liberal arts oriented school.</p>
<p>and columbia is greater than both.</p>
<p>us news begs to differ with that statement. Especially since Dartmouth is a higher feeder school.</p>
<p>DevilMayCry - Dartmouth would be better for law school I'd say</p>
<p>What statement are you begging to differ with?</p>
<p>LOL, someone said that columbia OWNZ dartmouth. I disagree. Are they about tied?</p>