<p>I agree with ApTester.</p>
<p>Fledgling, did he EXPLICITLY say that he wanted to avoid motels?</p>
<p>I agree with ApTester.</p>
<p>Fledgling, did he EXPLICITLY say that he wanted to avoid motels?</p>
<p>noo i dont… i think someone said it on page 87 or something… maybe aqhil717 knows…</p>
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<p>It DID say that he wanted to end the trip in one day. I remember specifically.</p>
<p>Fledgling, I don’t understand your reason number 3. Stealth means " slow, deliberate, and secret in action." I don’t see how their progress was any of those things.</p>
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the weird thing is, I definitely remember it as saying “criminals” or something similar [which is therefore why I put ‘unaccustomed freedom.’ I don’t remember ‘thieves’ at all. but my memory sucks so I probably just remembered wrong…</p>
<p>for the inexpensive motels, the ONLY reason for putting that answer is that those other things in the passage all signified CHEAP things… thats the only reaons… other than that, if there is any other arguments, they are prolly valid too… soo lets move on.</p>
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<p>No, he wanted to reach New York faster AND was picking up people from the streets so they wouldn’t have to stay somewhere overnight. (Now THAT’S something that’s explicitly stated in the passage.) </p>
<p>And I take my previous statement back; it did NOT say that he wanted to end the trip in one day. However, it DID say that he picked up people so they could drive when he got tired, so they wouldn’t ever have to stop. </p>
<p>Where does it say that they would not stop for food? I really don’t remember that.</p>
<p>for astronomy question, i picked choice b - it started “they lacked mathematical ???”
anyone remember this choice. everyone else chose choice e which was “observed celestial phenomena”</p>
<p>i put stealthy progress because the entire passage ws about them… progressing with eachother, getting to know eachother better, etc. … unaccustomed freedom would just be shown for one character… as in, he finally got freedom… although stealthy means slow and although he ws exhuberant (as shown by the cowboy question), their PROGRESS might have not been shown too much… as it is INTERNAL feelings… if that makes any sense</p>
<p>delontewest… uhhh it definately was not mathematicall… it is between someting POETIC or just the OBSERVABLE thing… or maybe they are the poetic and observable is the same answer, it is just hazy… =0</p>
<p>“their PROGRESS might have not been shown too much… as it is INTERNAL feelings”</p>
<p>That sounds a little farfetched…lol</p>
<p>I put unaccustomed freedom b/c it seemed like it was the first time the father and son ventured out like this. That’s why, I thought, the son wrote this passage.</p>
<p>Here’s my two cents on the “motels vs. faster travel” problem:</p>
<p>I put inexpensive motels, but I remember considering faster travel. The reason I ultimately ended up choosing inexpensive motels, however, was because I believe that Virgil never did intend to go through the night without staying at a hotel. He showed reluctance in picking up any random strangers (which would help them stay awake) and I also thought that since he wanted to spend more time with his son he would rather stretch out that time by staying at a hotel rather than not staying at one at all. I also chose this answer because it went along with the “cheap” motive that was repetitive throughout the sentence.</p>
<p>I believe that you guys are over thinking that question though… “Faster travel” can be seen as a sentimental reason simply because it is relative to something other than money, and I think that was what ETS was going for when they put that as an option.</p>
<p>Personally I think we should be debating more on the poetry/astronomers question… I remember that the poetry answer was “baffled because what they observed did not corroborate with the poetry”, and not with what they saw per-se. The passage talked about how they simply couldn’t create a poem/story to explain the celestial movements, not that they couldn’t reliably predict them.</p>
<p>I’m a huge organizing freak, so I’ll lay out my argument for the “faster travel” answer for future reference: </p>
<p>The referenced line began with “There were other, less sentimental reasons…” Thus, it only really explicitly stated that all the reasons on the list would be “less sentimental”, and not necessarily all “money saving”. </p>
<p>Then the question asked, “What would be a possible addition to the list in Line ___?” I don’t think it was suggesting that you take it completely out of context in order to answer it. </p>
<p>Then the five choices were:
-less pollution
-less cities
-faster travel
-inexpensive motels
-scenic views</p>
<p>1st, 2nd, and 5th answers are definitely out, since they don’t meet the stated requirement of being “less sentimental”. </p>
<p>Now in the passage, it explicitly states that the father was trying to get to New York as fast as possible, and that he was picking up people because he wanted them to drive when he got tired, so then they wouldn’t ever have to stop. Not having to stop is basically saying the same thing as not having to stop at a motel. So he’s essentially avoiding having to stay at a motel. </p>
<p>So since he’s avoiding having to stay at a motel, even though “inexpensive” fits in, “motel” does not fit as a reason. </p>
<p>Further, since it DID say that he was trying to get to New York quicker, that’s a direct reference to “faster travel”. </p>
<p>lol, call me an idiot all you want, but remember, this is only for future reference. :P</p>
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<p>I’m fairly certain that “baffled because what they observed did not corroborate with the poetry” was not the correct answer…I don’t remember the passage very well, though.</p>
<p>“Now in the passage, it explicitly states that the father was trying to get to New York as fast as possible, and that he was picking up people because he wanted them to drive when he got tired, so then they wouldn’t ever have to stop. Not having to stop is basically saying the same thing as not having to stop at a motel. So he’s essentially avoiding having to stay at a motel.”</p>
<p>But he never did pick anyone up… even the most qualified people (like the soldier) Virgil rejected, it may have seemed baffling at first, but I think the son realized that his dad just wanted to spend more time just between the two…</p>
<p>InvisibleMonster: I am fairly certain it is the correct answer. The astronomers weren’t baffled because they couldn’t reliably predict them, it was just that they couldn’t create a poem/story that could explain the movements, which the passage more thoroughly supports.</p>
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<p>Virgil rejected the soldier? I distinctly remember that it was his dad who rejected the soldier, and that Virgil called Earl “disloyal” as a result. </p>
<p>And also, assuming they continued down on that back route the whole time… when they ended up at the motel, it doesn’t say if it was expensive or cheap.</p>
<p>I don’t recall the support for “creating a poem/story.” Do you remember any specific lines that “thoroughly support” that?</p>
<p>Fledgling: Sorry. I’m mixing up the two names… I’ll just refer to them as “dad” and “son” henceforth. What I’m trying to say is that while the dad did say he wanted to go through the whole trip without stopping, I think it’s reasonable to infer from the passage that he didn’t want to rush the whole trip. The inexpensive motels could then be considered a viable option.</p>
<p>InvisibleMonster: The passage supports it because it talked about the main reason why astronomy/cosmology is scientifically studied to this day; it was because the random patterns couldn’t be predicted through the poems they made so that is why further research and investigation was conducted.</p>