Jesuit Rankings, the Great Debate.

<p>And according to the Chronicle for Higher Education Georgetown pays its full professors $148K per year(16th on the list). I guess Georgetown is just poorer than a bunch of church mice.</p>

<p>haha... got to treat your professor's well... them and the students...</p>

<p>I've read through quickly some of these reponses to see if anyone caught this: the original ranking at the top of thread ranks Jesuit schools. </p>

<p>NOTRE DAME HAS NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE A JESUIT SCHOOL. It was founded and continues to be home to the CONGREGATION OF HOLY CROSS PRIESTS AND BROTHERS. </p>

<p>Having said that, I would think that the aforestated ranking is accurate when talking about America's Catholic Universites. </p>

<p>I have never seen UND as being better than Georgetown. Georgetown students tend to be both bright and more (or end up being more) cultivated, given the location. </p>

<p>UND students tend to be closer to Holy Cross students, bright white, Irish/Italian Catholics with little wordliness. They're very one dimensional, as a whole. There are exceptions. </p>

<p>For an eclectic Catholic University student body, Fordham would be the best bet. And the school is second to none in many areas: theology, philosophy, communications, etc...</p>

<p>Wow jesuitteducated, I'm glad you pointed that out I was about to get really mad because that is such a huge difference. Notre Dame is NOT a Jesuit school, which should be obvious because of the Jesuit's long standing liberal (for an order of Catholic priests, of course) reputation compared to ND's very conservative one. I don't know about which is the best all around but I think GU is the most Jesuit of the Jesuit colleges. It's far more diverse and progressive than whitebread Holy Cross and BC.
(fun fact- way back in the day, and even up to the first half of the 20th century (before vatican II) the head of the Jesuit order was often known as the "black pope" because of how at odds jesuit teaching was with the ultra-conservative messages coming from Rome)</p>

<p>ps, just to clarify I LoVE the Jesuits, they are a huge part of why I want to go to Georgetown, and don't get me wrong they are still very catholic, just a bit more progressive than other orders :)</p>

<p>Uh, Jesuiteducated, if you had read my first post, you'd have seen that I put a note at the bottom saying that I knew Notre Dame wasn't Jesuit....</p>

<p>From a bench at Fairfield U. in the mid 1980s-</p>

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<p>God, S.J.</p>

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UND students tend to be closer to Holy Cross students, bright white, Irish/Italian Catholics with little wordliness. They're very one dimensional, as a whole. There are exceptions.

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<p>this is really funny</p>

<p>and kinda prejudging and ignorant haha. but its whatever.</p>

<p>.....this is how id rank GU, BC, and ND</p>

<p>1) Georgetown
2) Boston College
3) Notre Dame</p>

<p>....and here are the extremely biased and one-sided facts to support my results</p>

<p>-GU is more exclusive than ND
-(from my high school: 17/18 accepted into ND EA, 7/~15 accepted to BC, only a couple accepted in georgetown)
- ND-> middle of nowhere (as in its in a small town, NOT b/c its in the Midwest)
- ND-> most arrogant/conservative
- BC-> campus is too big to fit onto one location/too many stairs
- GU-> Wash. DC.....BC->Boston (outskirts of Boston)
- GU-> amazing transport
- GU-> most diverse
- GU-> world-renowned for things other than the "Fighting Irish" and "Rudy"
- I really hate ND if you couldnt tell...so im extremely biased (all three are great schools though!...including ND if thats ur sort of thing)</p>

<p>interesting how you coupled arrogant and conservative as if they always go together...</p>

<p>^^^^^ hmm. i guess it is a little funny....but there's truth behind every joke.</p>

<p>Hesburgh was neither conservative not arrogant. That's probably why his school (Notre Dame) was unequivocally the best Catholic one. Perhaps the lack of leadership since his retirement has helped the competitors. He's probably the best university president of the twentieth century. Not many people have the pull to get the Pope and the President for graduation on less than two weeks notice.</p>

<p>I'd put it as 1. Gtown 1. ND 3. BC</p>

<p>But that is just me. And like many people have pointed out, Notre Dame is run by the Congregation of Holy Cross. I go to a Holy Cross H.S. and this ****es the living hell out of people because everyone assumes ND is run by the Jesuits, but it is not the case.</p>

<p>i agree
1. Georgetown
2. Notre Dame
3. Boston College
4. Holy Cross
5. Fordham</p>

<p>Georgetown is definitly number 1 because of SFS, but it really depeands what you are looking for because holy cross is a lac ... and fordam is a university so i don't think that it should really be on this list
also villanova is better than fordham ...</p>

<p>I propose:</p>

<ol>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Boston College/Fordham</li>
<li>Holy Cross</li>
</ol>

<p>Fordham is the most diverse of these Catholic schools, it’s in New York, and it is rapidly gaining a better reputation <em>without sports</em> (unlike other schools who gained prominence in large part through athletics…BC, GT, ND…)</p>

<p>None of them can play football.</p>

<p>Holy Cross is the Patriot League football champion ;-></p>

<p>and Georgetown and Fordham are in the Patriot League for football.</p>

<p>And none of them has won a major bowl or an FCS championship in their student’s lifetimes.</p>