<p>Yea, but US News and World Report would not only place Fordham above Holy Cross - but well above Holy Cross. In fact, it is the 4th best ranked Catholic school on the list. It’s a tier 1 school. I can’t believe people are grouping it in tier 3 and 4. Where is this coming from? It’s an amazing school.</p>
<p>One universe is The Princeton Review:</p>
<p>Admissions Selectivity Rating:
Holy Cross: 96
Fordham: 92
ND: 98
BC: 97
Georgetown: 98
Villanova: 95</p>
<p>Academic Rating:
Holy Cross: 95
Fordham: 84
ND: 90
BC:89
Georgetown: 90
Villanova:88</p>
<p>The well known and highly regarded college guidebook "Barron’s Profiles of American Colleges classified College of the Holy Cross in their highest category “Most Competitive” and classifies Fordham University in the lower category “Highly Competitive”.</p>
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<p>According to 2011 US News & World Report College Rankings:</p>
<p>Fordham is ranked 56th on the National Universities list with a **50% **acceptance rate.</p>
<p>College of the Holy Cross is ranked 32nd on the National Liberal Arts Colleges list with a **36% **acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Seems like accepting 36% of applicants versus 50% of applicants would indicate that HC is much more selective.</p>
<p>[Jesuit</a> Colleges and Universities Quiz Results - sporcle](<a href=“http://www.sporcle.com/games/jesuit_colleges_results.php]Jesuit”>http://www.sporcle.com/games/jesuit_colleges_results.php)</p>
<p>Things keep changing and Fordham is a moving target: moving up in the rankings each year:</p>
<p>IN USN&WR for 2012, the rankings for NATIONAL RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES list this group:</p>
<p>ND-19th, Georgetown-27th, BC-31st and Fordham 53rd. All three are classified by the Carnige Foundation as high research institutions.</p>
<p>Holy Cross is higly ranked in the Liberal Arts classification and Villanova is the #1 Regional school in the Northeast; both are not in the same category as National Research.</p>
<p>Fordham’s acceptace rate was noted here as 50% in '10. It is now 42%</p>
<p>Notre dame is not run by JESUITS!!</p>
<p>Best catholic colleges would have to be:</p>
<ol>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Villanova</li>
<li>Holy cross</li>
<li>Fordham</li>
</ol>
<p>best JESUIT schools would be</p>
<ol>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Boston college</li>
<li>Holy cross</li>
<li>Fordham</li>
<li>Loyola Maryland</li>
</ol>
<p>I based my rankings off sat scores, gpa, and name recognition.</p>
<p>Not a huge deal… just figured I’d point out that Georgetown is ranked #22, not #27, by USN&WR.</p>
<p>To me, it’s a virtual tie between Notre Dame and Georgetown… with BC just a little bit below them and Holy Cross just below BC.</p>
<p>One thing to say about selectivity: it does not have anything to do with the quality of the faculty/teaching. So in a Fordham vs. HC debate, admissions selectivity is just one small factor…</p>
<p>Like most ranking threads, this conversation has become rather ridiculous. All of the mentioned schools are fantastic. In some fields, one might be better academically/more known than another. Also, there is some variation in student body among these colleges, but for the most part, they are fairly conservative and are homogeneously composed of white Catholics. I was born and raised Catholic. I visited 20 colleges and Georgetown was the only one I crossed off my list. I didn’t apply to any of these schools and I currently attend Penn.</p>
<p>OK, we are now in 2012 and some updating is in order. I see the rankings as…</p>
<p>Best catholic colleges would have to be:</p>
<p>National Research
- Georgetown
- Notre Dame
- Boston College
- Fordham
Regional and Liberal Arts - Villanova
- Holy Cross</p>
<p>Best Jesuit schools would be</p>
<ol>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Fordham</li>
<li>Holy Cross</li>
<li>Fairfield</li>
<li>Santa Clara</li>
<li>Scranton</li>
<li>Loyola-Chicago</li>
</ol>
<p>I based my rankings off USN&WR, sat scores, acceptance, job internships and placement and current name recognition. </p>
<p>Also, growth: in USN&WR Villanova has been #1 in Northeast Regional for a number of years, but that is a small group with four other #1 regionals. Holy Cross is 29th in Liberal Arts in 2012 but was 27th in 2011, so lost 2 places. Fordham has moved from 86th to 53rd in less than 10 years in the National Reseach category and looks to continue to move up. ND, GU and BC still the top 3 Catholic schools.</p>
<p>Fall 2010 Acceptance rate for Fordham per US News: 51%
[Fordham</a> University | Rankings | Best College | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/fordham-university-2722/rankings]Fordham”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/fordham-university-2722/rankings)</p>
<p>Fall 2010 Acceptance rate for Holy Cross per US News: 35%
[Holy</a> Cross | College of the Holy Cross | Rankings | Best College | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/holy-cross-2141/rankings]Holy”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/holy-cross-2141/rankings)</p>
<p>Dude</p>
<p>This is 2012…why are you quoting 2010 stats? Is that the only way you can prove a point, with old stats?</p>
<p>FWIW Fordham’s accepance rate is 42% in 2012</p>
<p>This is from the Paris School of Mines 2011 Ranking of World Universities. Here is one ranking you don’t hear much about: it considers ALL world colleges (some 7,000) in the world according to the Number of CEO’s in Fortune 500 companies and ONLY CEOs, then listed the top 350 schools for their site. I selected only American schools to list and 2 British.</p>
<p>1- Harvard
5- Oxford
12- Columbia
13- Stanford
14- MIT
19- Northwestern
21- Chicago
15- Cornell
29- Berkley
30- Cambridge
35- Yale
38- Georgia Tech, Notre Dame
59- Dartmouth
63- Fordham, Johns Hopkins, Duke,
82- Princeton
92- Brown, U-Miami, USN academy,
229- Boston College, Boston University, NYU, Rutgers, Michigan, Vanderbuilt,
West Point, USAF academy
349- Emory, Georgetown</p>
<p>Note that the only US Catholic schools that made this list are ND, BC, Fordham and Georgetown.</p>
<p>That ranking sounds similar to equally well known one done by the Baghdad School of Foreign Service.</p>
<p>The Paris School of Mines 2011 Ranking of World Universities is almost the USN&WR to European universities and is very well known. They have some web sites you can check out.</p>
<p>Baghdad School of Foreign Service? I suppose that is funny. Good one required_details.</p>
<p>Can you provide the website for this Paris School of Mines 2011 Ranking of World Universities? I googled it and was unable to locate it aside from references to it on Fordham sites.</p>
<p>It may have been how it was typed in.</p>
<p>Here you go:</p>
<p>[MINES</a> ParisTech - INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL RANKING OF HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS](<a href=“http://www.mines-paristech.fr/Actualites/PR/Ranking2011EN-Fortune2010.html#7]MINES”>http://www.mines-paristech.fr/Actualites/PR/Ranking2011EN-Fortune2010.html#7)</p>
<p>OPPS! someone informed me I missed 4 Catholic schools from the list: Xavier was #211 and at 228, San Francisco, Santa Clara and Dayton.</p>
<p>My bad…Mea culpa. Hey, at least it adds 3 other Jesuit schools to this esteemed group.</p>
<p>I’m sure it’s mentioned deep with this thread, but for the record, the University of Notre Dame is not a Jesuit institution. It is a Catholic Institution founded by The Congregation of the Holy Cross.</p>
<p>Saint John’s has to be included in the top 10 as well.</p>